[stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED

Thu Mar 27 04:29:08 UTC 2014

If no one ever has the courage to stand up, then nothing ever changes.
Fear and hopelessness are always in the wings, waiting, but some
struggle against fear and hopelessness and stand at stage center,
forcing the world to pay attention, to listen. When we lose ourselves in
fear and hopelessness, no one hears, no one watches and no one changes.

Bridgit

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:30 PM
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> Angry andand hateful people will always be among us, no matter if the
> whole world stood up against them.  Drawing attention to yourself just

> draws them in.  No laws will ever change hearts.  People are just
mean.
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
> Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.--Robert 
> Frost -----Original Message-----
> From: Atty Rose
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:35 AM
> To: Writer's Division Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>
> People can wear proud to be a twin, proud to be short, proud to be
> anything
> they want, though you won't get dragged in the street, beaten to deth
or
> discriminated against for being a twin or short. I think Thea said it 
> well,
> GBLTA people have to speak up and stand together. If they don't stand
> together they might not be able to leagve their homes even with their 
> white
> canes. Oh, wait, wrong group... But same idea.
>
> Atty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> To: "Writer's Division Mailing List" <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>
>
>> Thank you for saying this, Brigit.  I, too, do not understand why 
>> it's
>> okay to wear the "proud to be gay" when it's not okay for "proud to
be a 
>> heterosexual".
>> Barbara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Writing free verse is like playing tennis with the net down.--Robert
>> Frost
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:51 PM
>> To: 'Writer's Division Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>
>> And perhaps this is an ignorant heterosexual talking, but the way I 
>> see it is that no one expects straight people to constantly identify 
>> our sexual orientation, so why gays and bi's and transgender? I think

>> a part of equality and inclusion means accepting people as whole 
>> beings regardless of sexual orientation. Identifying or being 
>> identified by sexual orientation is the same as being identified by 
>> disability or hair color or music interest etc. It's just one part of

>> a person.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> William L Houts
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:38 PM
>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> HI Katie,
>>
>> I cheerfully identify as gay, though my reality is a little more 
>> complicated.  For various reasons, I no longer go to bars or 
>> participate
>>
>> in gay culture in that way.  It's all fine, clubs, bars, parades, the

>> whole thing.  But to my friends and family, I feel myself to be 
>> "postgay", which is how I identify myself on the rare occasions the 
>> subject comes up.  Postgay isn't nearly the same thing as "ex-gay", 
>> which is false and noxious.  Postgay, as I understand the word, means

>> that yes, yes, I love men, and in general take a relaxed view of 
>> sexuality.  I'm just not very interested in making a big issue of it.

>> I
>>
>> love all of our gay heroes, our Oscar Wilde, our Harvey Milk, our 
>> name your poison. But I don't go out of my way to make gay jokes, to 
>> frequent
>>
>> gay owned establishments, or to attend gay-themed parties. You're 
>> welcome to go, and I'll be glad to hear about it when you come home.

>> As
>>
>> for me, well, I'm working on a sestina tonight.
>>
>>
>>
>> --Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/2014 9:22 PM, kec92 at ourlink.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am still writing the play about the bisexual transgender male. I 
>>> would just like to update on some of the issues that I have read 
>>> about
>>
>>> and talking to lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and 
>>> Questioning
>>> (LGBTQQ) peoples. One of the issues that I have read about is that
>> many
>>> of the characters that are seen on movies that are acting as LGBTQQ
>> are
>>> mostly heteorsexual and cisgender (people whose gender idenity and 
>>> assigned sex match), play LGBTQQ characters. There has been some 
>>> controversy in the LGBTQQ community where they want people who
>> actually
>>> identify as LGBTQQ.
>>>
>>> Another issue that I would like to bring up is the inclusion of 
>>> people
>>
>>> with disabilities who also identify as LGBTQQ wanting inclusion as 
>>> well. Even within the LGBTQQ community, there is still 
>>> discrimination and bias.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Katie
>>>
>>> On 24.03.2014 20:23, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackie,
>>>>
>>>> The movie is Tu Wong Fu: To Julie Newmar, with Love, starring 
>>>> Patrick
>>
>>>> Swayze, and yes, it was a funny but heart-felt movie. It was made 
>>>> in the mid-90's.
>>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Jackie
>>
>>>> Williams
>>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 7:42 PM
>>>> To: stylist at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [stylist] LGBTQ REVISITED
>>>>
>>>> I AM STILL REVISITING ALL THE E-MAILS I MISSED. Well, I enclosed my

>>>> few about spiders. I have had a hard time remembering the meanings 
>>>> of
>>
>>>> all these letters, but I have one or two poems that might nibble on

>>>> the edges. I have known many gay men, some fellow teachers, two of 
>>>> whom adopted. Quite amazing for Arizona. Better parents I never 
>>>> knew.
>>
>>>> I also found that my Great Aunt Dora, a heroine of mine throughout 
>>>> my
>>
>>>> life, left a letter when she died asking that her headstone be 
>>>> placed
>>
>>>> next to another woman's headstone, and a tender letter was 
>>>> enclosed. A very attractive woman, she refused offers of marriage, 
>>>> and became the Librarian at Upper Iowa University. When she retired

>>>> after fifty years, an old beau asked her again, and she again 
>>>> refused. Years after this mystery, an answer. Then, some years ago,

>>>> I saw a movie with a Chinese title about a drag queen. It starred 
>>>> the dancer who also starred in ghost, and it was hilarious. I also 
>>>> visited a friend in San Francisco, and went first to a place to eat

>>>> and see the belly dancers. Then we went next door and saw endless 
>>>> men in drag. I had to
>>
>>>> write about a man with a mother that could be me, and his wife and 
>>>> child who could be my daughter-in-law. Other than my imagination, I

>>>> don't have a lot of knowledge, except my scientific-based beliefs, 
>>>> that is most developments take place in the womb, and sometimes are

>>>> highly influenced also by environments that cannot help but magnify

>>>> or turn the tide to an already genetic pattern. Now that I think of

>>>> it, I have three poems that touch in some way on one or another of 
>>>> these "letters." I suggest that you read this first line by line, 
>>>> and
>>
>>>> spell out the few words that are not phonetic, then read it a 
>>>> second time with insert, down arrow. It is long, 73 lines. I 
>>>> submitted it to
>>
>>>> Georgia for several years, since I understood it to be the drag 
>>>> queen
>>
>>>> capitol of the U.S., but it must have offended someone to claim it 
>>>> as
>>
>>>> part of their history. It is a marathon of rhyming, and if you do 
>>>> not
>>
>>>> hear it, the format has not remained true. Category 4 Jacqueline 
>>>> Williams Expressing Beliefs In All Ways 1431 W. 7th Place
>>>>
>>>> Mesa, AZ 85201
>>>>
>>>> 480-834-1782
>>>>
>>>> The Evolution of a Drag Queen
>>>>
>>>> "My Mother, nothing comes to mind
>>>> to extricate me from my bind."
>>>> Athletic honors, throwing shot
>>>> and javelin were surely not
>>>> the skills that now will make up for
>>>> a youth I wasted. I foreswore
>>>> the effort facing learning times,
>>>> realities and saving dimes.
>>>> All those awards led me astray
>>>> until too late, though I must say
>>>> the medals for my breaststroke swims
>>>> left me big "pecs" and long strong limbs.
>>>> I had a decent resume
>>>> before I lost my job. Foul play
>>>> robbed goals set by my love and me
>>>> for newborn son, cast them asea.
>>>>
>>>> "My son, I'll think about it soon."
>>>> So often, Mom, I've heard this tune.
>>>> You'll wear your gowns and gaudy rings
>>>> to hifalutin social things.
>>>> Oh, wait, my quite majestic mom,
>>>> so tall, so buxom, such aplomb.
>>>> Ideas brew-a rushing tide.
>>>> I'll find a conquest for my bride.
>>>>
>>>> You gone, your spikes upon my feet,
>>>> I walk and fall and still repeat
>>>> a practice that becomes my code,
>>>> a perfect imagery, the mode.
>>>> I've got the walk, now what to do
>>>> to make the perfect witch's brew
>>>> that causes me to light the flame?
>>>> Please bring me soon to newborn fame.
>>>>
>>>> My wife's peach-pink scant underpants
>>>> inspire an undulating dance.
>>>> While she, adored, earns great big bucks,
>>>> I hold the bottle my son sucks.
>>>> As "Mister Mom," I take him here
>>>> and there and now it's everywhere.
>>>> The beauty parlor-such a place!
>>>> He always grins his funny face.
>>>> We hang out as a winsome pair.
>>>> The ladies think us both quite fair.
>>>> As one beautician holds him tight,
>>>> another makes my eyes shine bright.
>>>> Eye shadow, glitter, wigs all glow.
>>>> My heart beats fast. My wife will know
>>>> the depth of love I feel for her.
>>>> Oh, dear, my makeup must not blur.
>>>> I slowly roll my thigh-highs up-
>>>> the jet-black net-oh, quite corrupt.
>>>>
>>>> My mom and wife will meet for dinner.
>>>> I pray that they will see a winner.
>>>> Mother, son and dearest one
>>>> arrive all laughing, full of fun-
>>>> awash in new-felt wonderments
>>>> at rainbow fans on fundaments.
>>>> They do not know I'm here, you see,
>>>> cast eyes at entrance doors. Oh me.
>>>>
>>>> The drum roll comes and I sashay
>>>> the runway, not one hair astray.
>>>> Bestowing smiles on all alike-
>>>> arched eyebrows, winks, I pass my tyke
>>>> with arms outstretched and then he knows
>>>> his "Mommy" right down to my toes.
>>>>
>>>> And now when all is said and done,
>>>> with kudos to my lovely one,
>>>> she must compete with all those droves
>>>> who bring me gifts and treasure troves
>>>> of drag queens-past and present tense.
>>>> I hope that I'll maintain the sense
>>>> to build a future-one to see-
>>>> that's free of fear and bigotry.
>>>>
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>>           --Jane Siberry
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