[stylist] writer or write not

Tue Aug 4 20:32:47 UTC 2015

Barbara, Yes, but we still need to try not to be insulting or offensive to
others. Sometimes that does occur andpeople are driven off. I just want
people to be considerate of others and though I am not the kindergarten
teacher that should have given this lesson already, I will step in when
needed. Sometimes, it is not going to happen when someone thinks it should
however, because at certain times, silence is more effective. Not all
people understand how their words hurt others and are incapable of learning
this. As long as it does not continue, it could sometimes be ignored.
Generally, those who make the comments, go unnoticed by many. If attention
is brought to each negativity, it grows. It is on this premiss that I feel
the subject has met its end.
My point here was to point out how close the group is and how we support
each other. More likely, the ones who need the message are the ones who
will rmain silent. Just as the ones who are hurt are usually the silent
ones.
Eve

 President, National Federation of the Blind Northern Arizona
President, National Federation of the Blind Writers' Division
Committee Chair, Arizona Association of Guide Dog Users
Affiliate Member, National Federation of the Blind Legislative Committee
Affiliate Member, National Federation of the Blind Membership Committee
Member, Slate & Style Editing Team

"You do not need to have vision to see the stars."

On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, justin williams via stylist <
stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> This list is a little more lax than others; that's good, writers are a more
> ecclectic bunch.
> Justin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barbara
> HAMMEL via stylist
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 4:10 PM
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> Cc: Barbara HAMMEL <poetlori8 at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: [stylist] writer or write not
>
> Eve, that's why I stand by my that everything we write is a part of
> writing.
> Is it frustrating to see a zillion messages on one topic that we don't care
> about? Sure, but we have done SO much better at having good and clear
> subject lines that deleting is easy.
> And, if we can't go off topic sometimes, how are we to become a cohesive
> group? And like you said, how can we grow as people in our relations to
> others fort some camaraderie. For some, this may be their best chance to
> communicate with others.
> Barbara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 4, 2015, at 14:59, EvaMarie Sanchez via stylist
> <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Earlier Jackie posted her feelings after receiving a letter saying she
> > was being removed from the list serve. Sure it was not real and
> > nothing to worry about, but how would she have known that? More
> > important, it does not matter. Negativity upsets people. That is human
> > nature. And because of this email, a special lady, a friend to many was
> upset.
> > Did it stop there though? No, not at all. There were numberous
> > responses to her trying to find solutions, trying to reasure her and
> > wanting justice for the act that caused the pain. So I ask, why did so
> > many of us quickly respond?
> > The answer comes in the manner of which this list serve opperates. It
> > is a list serve for writers about writing, but we also tend to discuss
> > life here on a ffrequent occurrance. This sometimes bothers some that
> > only want the subjects to pertain to writing, but writing is about
> > life and friendship as well. If we do not have the chance to grow as
> > people, we do not make the connections that provide for that growth.
> > Yes, it is a paradox, but what isn't? And if we do not make those
> connections, we do not learn to care.
> > We cared about Jackie, because of the time we have spent on this list
> > with her and I am sure that there have been many many relationships
> > built here over the years.
> > I stand by what I had previously said about keeping off topic things
> > down so that we do not offend anyone, but we must also feel we could
> > talk. In the conversaitions over the past week or so, I have only seen
> > one thing that was offensive (and this came in after the warning), but
> > I have seen a lot of camaraderie. I am proud to be a part of this
> > group and hope that you all feel proud of who you are here as well.
> > We, in the Writers' Division and on this list serve, are never alone.
> > Eve Sanchez
> > President, National Federation of the Blind Northern Arizona
> > President, National Federation of the Blind Writers' Division
> > Committee Chair, Arizona Association of Guide Dog Users Affiliate
> > Member, National Federation of the Blind Legislative Committee
> > Affiliate Member, National Federation of the Blind Membership
> > Committee Member, Slate & Style Editing Team
> >
> > "You do not need to have vision to see the stars."
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