[stylist] [Tanka] stretch

Barbara HAMMEL poetlori8 at msn.com
Mon Aug 10 12:16:11 UTC 2015 

I saw something that said they are supposed to use metaphor, or simile?
Barbara

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> On Aug 10, 2015, at 03:36, Lynda Lambert via stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jackie and Barbara,
> If only it was that easy - but it is not at all easy or a quick study to understand the Japanese forms.
> tanka  is a complex form to explore.
> It is far more complicated than just syllable count or even theme.
> I've been discussing this with some of the experts in the haiku and tanka organizations.  I am a member of the Tanka Society of America which is pretty darn exciting to me!  They publish a beautiful literary magazine 3 x a year - and it blows me away it is so exquisite. I have miles to go before I understand this form - but I am working on it.
> It is a project I am working on  since last April when I decided to explore tanka and write tanka for the entire month of April in celebration of National Poetry Month.  It was an eye-opener (pun intended).
> I soon discovered some aspects of this form that are very different than the generic "directions" you will find posted on the search engines.  I have a lot more research and work to do on this subject.  Lynda
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Barbara HAMMEL via stylist
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 8:49 PM
> To: Writers' Division Mailing List
> Cc: Barbara HAMMEL
> Subject: Re: [stylist] [Tanka] stretch
> 
> The examples I saw online fit yours. Your syllable count is right. Actually you have a double tanka.
> Barbara
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 9, 2015, at 19:36, Jackie Williams via stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Lynda,
>> Hope I did not mess up this thread name.
>> I have made an effort at a Tanka. Please tell me if it is correct in terms
>> of your form guide.
>> 
>> A Tanka Sequence
>> 
>> Hold Me Fast
>> 
>> You are my spillway
>> holding back the turbulence
>> of my fears and  tears ,
>> the dark essence of my flood.
>> Still, the spray will sparkle high.
>> 
>> You, alone, control
>> my stormy overflow-so
>> captured, just for you,
>> the sun's so fleeting spectrum-
>> the arc of my rare rainbow.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jackie Lee
>> 
>> Time is the school in which we learn.
>> Time is the fire in which we burn.
>> Delmore Schwartz
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Lambert
>> via stylist
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:21 PM
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>> Cc: Lynda Lambert
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] sestina stretch
>> 
>> Jackie,
>> Well, Jackie, as always you have a way of nailing down all the comments so
>> well.  Writing a sestina is my favorite kind of poem to write - but I am
>> also in love with the "small" poems - and the Tanka is so exquisite as well
>> as the haiku - - but  so darn hard to write! It is so far beyond the little
>> syllable counting directions that we all know about - so much more than
>> that, and so much unwritten aspects of the forms that I am just beginning to
>> 
>> grasp.  I am only in pre-school  at writing  these  Japanese forms. But, I
>> want to learn so much more.  They are like trying to paint a very tiny,
>> exquisite painting - so difficult to not get tangled  in details.
>> You would not consider me very good at anything today - I have just
>> meandered around, walking dogs, doing a little bit of paperwork, and that is
>> 
>> about it for my day.  We all have such days, I imagine. Every day cannot be
>> a "high voltage" day, but I do  thrive on high voltage days  the best. On
>> the in-between days, I feel adrift and a bit unraveling. I need to write a
>> poem about that - maybe.  Lynda
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Williams via stylist
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:51 PM
>> To: 'Writers' Division Mailing List'
>> Cc: Jackie Williams
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] sestina stretch
>> 
>> EvaMarie,
>> I have read to the end of this thread. To me, the sestina is one of the most
>> difficult form poems to write, and the fact that you got into it and doubled
>> the length is something of a miracle.
>> Of course, I consider Lynda the master of this form, so how can you go wrong
>> with her suggestions. Also, Barbara has an interesting strategy.
>> But the comment that I like the most is Lynda's when she just picks words
>> and puts them down with the faith that they will come to have their own
>> story and meaning when finished.
>> In my poetry group, whenever the teacher wants a new and creative response
>> from the group, she assigns a random word poem. Sometimes it has ten words,
>> sometimes, twenty. This has brought some remarkable poetry from me as well
>> as the others who take this challenge.
>> Like Barbara, you can write a sequence that is double in length, if this is
>> what turns out.
>> Good luck, and my admiration.
>> 
>> Jackie Lee
>> 
>> Time is the school in which we learn.
>> Time is the fire in which we burn.
>> Delmore Schwartz
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of EvaMarie
>> Sanchez via stylist
>> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:46 PM
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>> Cc: EvaMarie Sanchez
>> Subject: [stylist] sestina stretch
>> 
>> I was just working on a sestina when I noticed that I had been carried away
>> with the words. I came to a stop and went to the top to start counting
>> stanzas. Somehow I had completely lost count and had nearly doubled my
>> required length. Oops!
>> I felt the safest thing for me to do at that point was to close it out and
>> return to it later when it will be less a thing of passion. In this way, I
>> hope to be able to look at it critically and do what must be done. Perhaps
>> I will find two sestinas there. I did not even do a read through at that
>> point.
>> Has this ever happened to any of you?
>> Eve
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