[stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books- Left Behind

Sat Aug 22 16:52:02 UTC 2015

The idea of the Rapture is fairly new, as Bridgit said, but the general belief today is that, yes, Jesus has yet to return for the second coming.
Barbara

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> On Aug 22, 2015, at 11:27, EvaMarie Sanchez via stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> So that was it? He is not coming back to float down and rule the masses or
> anything?
> I am totally confused. I always thoughht they believed everyone was still
> waiting for the second coming. I mean those that believe that. Like I
> thought that he was supposed to be coming soon and that there were signs of
> his impending coming. Or am I without realizing it, referencing
> Revelations, which you seem to be debunking anyways?
> Oh hey, I am doing it again, getting inappropriate. I just really do nnot
> understand this.
> Sorry if I am offending anyone here.
> Eve
> 
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> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist <
> stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Nope, actually, it was written for the Christians of the day, many living
>> in
>> areas ruled by the Romans, who after a century or so, started seeking out
>> Jewish sects, or now known as Christianity. Most Bible scholars do not even
>> believe it was John who wrote the book, and it may have even been several
>> authors. And because the oldest copies of New Testament writings that can
>> be
>> verified do not even come close to the actual dates they were penned, most
>> being about 400 to 500 years later, meaning we no longer have text of
>> Biblical scripture dating any sooner than the early medieval period, quite
>> a
>> bit later than when New Testament scripture was originally written. So it's
>> never been authenticated as to when Revelations was written. It was
>> actually
>> debated for centuries if Revelations should be included in the Bible. And
>> when the Council of Nicaea convened to canonize the Bible, it was not able
>> to authenticate it either in terms of origin. My point being that while
>> Revelations can act as a kind of spiritual guide, a good vs. evil, if you
>> will, it was never intended for future generations. It was to buck up the
>> spirits of Christians living in the time it was written, which likely was
>> between 50 AD to 150 AD. It was questioned and debated for years before
>> finalizing it as New Testament canon, so it was not intended to act as
>> prophecy or a guide on the End Times. And in fact, the Catholic church
>> believes that the Second Coming of Jesus happened when he returned after
>> the
>> Resserection to meet with the Apostles.
>> 
>> Again, this is all covered in writing and book studied at most seminaries
>> and contained in mainstream Bible commentaries.
>> 
>> Bridgit
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barbara
>> HAMMEL via stylist
>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:06 PM
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>> Cc: Barbara HAMMEL <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books- Left
>> Behind
>> 
>> The endtimes will not be pretty and Revelation makes that VERY clear. Those
>> books were meant to make one contemplate where they wish to spend eternity.
>> Barbara
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2015, at 13:47, Jackie Williams via stylist
>>> <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bridgit,
>>> What do you know?
>>> You  are well-educated in both basic writing skills and biblical studies.
>>> For me, after reading the 1-5 first books, mostly out of curiosity and
>>> the need to always balance my intake of everything, I felt almost
>>> physically ill. So I never read the rest.
>>> 
>>> Jackie Lee
>>> 
>>> Time is the school in which we learn.
>>> Time is the fire in which we burn.
>>> Delmore Schwartz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>>> Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:13 AM
>>> To: 'Writers' Division Mailing List'
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books-
>>> Left Behind
>>> 
>>> I mean, if that's what you're into, what you believe, great, but I
>>> personally am against them, and not even for the subject matter, but
>>> they are just not well-written, but hey, they have sold millions, so
>>> what do I know?
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Jacobson, Shawn D via stylist
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:47 PM
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>>> Cc: Jacobson, Shawn D <Shawn.D.Jacobson at hud.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books
>>> 
>>> I never read the "Left Behind" books.  I heard about them and decided
>>> they were worth avoiding.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jackie
>>> Williams via stylist
>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:45 PM
>>> To: 'Writers' Division Mailing List'
>>> Cc: Jackie Williams
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books
>>> 
>>> Bridgit,
>>> Amen! Amen! Amen!
>>> 
>>> Jackie Lee
>>> 
>>> Time is the school in which we learn.
>>> Time is the fire in which we burn.
>>> Delmore Schwartz
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit
>>> Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:48 PM
>>> To: 'Writers' Division Mailing List'
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books
>>> 
>>> Not to rock the boat, but the Left Behind series, both adult and
>>> children's, are some of the biggest propaganda-driven books I've ever
>>> read. And not all that Biblically sound either. Doctrinally, though
>>> espousing popular beliefs, the theology is not well-grounded, much of
>>> the Bible it's based on taken way out of context, and based on beliefs
>>> that are only about 100 years old or so, interpreting Revelations in a
>> way
>> not previously interpreted as such.
>>> The first university I attended was a Bible college, and all students,
>>> regardless of major, had to minor in Biblical studies, plus, I've done
>>> a lot of independent research on this, so I'm not just blowing smoke.
>>> I know I'm being controversial, but I'm by far not the first to make
>> these
>> comments.
>>> 
>>> And I don't even find Left Behind to be a good series. The movies are
>>> equally bad. This is a perfect example of pushing an agenda in
>>> literature, and focusing on the agenda more than the characters, or
>>> even, to be frank, the plot.
>>> 
>>> Bridgit
>>> 
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