[stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books- Left Behind

Sat Aug 22 23:15:52 UTC 2015

I didn't intend on posting anymore on this just so I can't be accused of
anything, grin, but to answer you, there are various interpretations of
Revelations. Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans/Episcopalian, and Orthodox have
similar interpretations. Most these denominations believe the "second
coming" of Jesus was when he returned to the Apostles after the
Resurrection. Other Christians believe the second coming is yet to happen.
Many believe Revelations was written to the Christians of the time, while
some hold to Revelations being a book of prophecy about the "End Times" and
what life will be like. The Rapture theory claims Christians in "good
standing" will automatically go to Heaven and escape all the bad stuff. This
gets into a lot of specific doctrine and dogma that's not only complicated
but probably not appropriate for this list. Ultimately, I say, to each, his
own, but I think it's good to know the theology behind religious beliefs and
not just take what you read and hear at face value. And FYI, for those
familiar with Revelations, the section at the end about anyone adding or
taking away from the Bible will go to Hell, was not in the earlier versions
of Revelations. It appears in later copies. So take what you will from this.
Sorry, Eve, if this just confuses you more.

Bridgit

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Behind

So that was it? He is not coming back to float down and rule the masses or
anything?
I am totally confused. I always thoughht they believed everyone was still
waiting for the second coming. I mean those that believe that. Like I
thought that he was supposed to be coming soon and that there were signs of
his impending coming. Or am I without realizing it, referencing Revelations,
which you seem to be debunking anyways?
Oh hey, I am doing it again, getting inappropriate. I just really do nnot
understand this.
Sorry if I am offending anyone here.
Eve

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On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist <
stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Nope, actually, it was written for the Christians of the day, many 
> living in areas ruled by the Romans, who after a century or so, 
> started seeking out Jewish sects, or now known as Christianity. Most 
> Bible scholars do not even believe it was John who wrote the book, and 
> it may have even been several authors. And because the oldest copies 
> of New Testament writings that can be verified do not even come close 
> to the actual dates they were penned, most being about 400 to 500 
> years later, meaning we no longer have text of Biblical scripture 
> dating any sooner than the early medieval period, quite a bit later 
> than when New Testament scripture was originally written. So it's 
> never been authenticated as to when Revelations was written. It was 
> actually debated for centuries if Revelations should be included in 
> the Bible. And when the Council of Nicaea convened to canonize the 
> Bible, it was not able to authenticate it either in terms of origin. 
> My point being that while Revelations can act as a kind of spiritual 
> guide, a good vs. evil, if you will, it was never intended for future 
> generations. It was to buck up the spirits of Christians living in the 
> time it was written, which likely was between 50 AD to 150 AD. It was 
> questioned and debated for years before finalizing it as New Testament 
> canon, so it was not intended to act as prophecy or a guide on the End 
> Times. And in fact, the Catholic church believes that the Second 
> Coming of Jesus happened when he returned after the Resserection to 
> meet with the Apostles.
>
> Again, this is all covered in writing and book studied at most 
> seminaries and contained in mainstream Bible commentaries.
>
> Bridgit
>
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> From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barbara 
> HAMMEL via stylist
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> Cc: Barbara HAMMEL <poetlori8 at msn.com>
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> Left Behind
>
> The endtimes will not be pretty and Revelation makes that VERY clear. 
> Those books were meant to make one contemplate where they wish to spend
eternity.
> Barbara
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 21, 2015, at 13:47, Jackie Williams via stylist
> <stylist at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Bridgit,
> > What do you know?
> > You  are well-educated in both basic writing skills and biblical
studies.
> > For me, after reading the 1-5 first books, mostly out of curiosity 
> > and the need to always balance my intake of everything, I felt 
> > almost physically ill. So I never read the rest.
> >
> > Jackie Lee
> >
> > Time is the school in which we learn.
> > Time is the fire in which we burn.
> > Delmore Schwartz
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 11:13 AM
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> > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books- 
> > Left Behind
> >
> > I mean, if that's what you're into, what you believe, great, but I 
> > personally am against them, and not even for the subject matter, but 
> > they are just not well-written, but hey, they have sold millions, so 
> > what do I know?
> >
> > Bridgit
> >
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> > From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Jacobson, Shawn D via stylist
> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 12:47 PM
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> >
> > I never read the "Left Behind" books.  I heard about them and 
> > decided they were worth avoiding.
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Jackie Williams via stylist
> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 1:45 PM
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> >
> > Bridgit,
> > Amen! Amen! Amen!
> >
> > Jackie Lee
> >
> > Time is the school in which we learn.
> > Time is the fire in which we burn.
> > Delmore Schwartz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stylist [mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via stylist
> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:48 PM
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> > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> > Subject: Re: [stylist] Looking for ideas on good children's books
> >
> > Not to rock the boat, but the Left Behind series, both adult and 
> > children's, are some of the biggest propaganda-driven books I've 
> > ever read. And not all that Biblically sound either. Doctrinally, 
> > though espousing popular beliefs, the theology is not well-grounded, 
> > much of the Bible it's based on taken way out of context, and based 
> > on beliefs that are only about 100 years old or so, interpreting 
> > Revelations in a
> way
> not previously interpreted as such.
> > The first university I attended was a Bible college, and all 
> > students, regardless of major, had to minor in Biblical studies, 
> > plus, I've done a lot of independent research on this, so I'm not just
blowing smoke.
> > I know I'm being controversial, but I'm by far not the first to make
> these
> comments.
> >
> > And I don't even find Left Behind to be a good series. The movies 
> > are equally bad. This is a perfect example of pushing an agenda in 
> > literature, and focusing on the agenda more than the characters, or 
> > even, to be frank, the plot.
> >
> > Bridgit
> >
> >
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