[stylist] Scrivener verses Word and more!

Thu Jun 23 14:09:01 UTC 2016

I use MS Office 2013, I believe. Yes, I still use the key strokes for Word
or Excel. I rarely actually go into the ribbons.

Bridgit

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Bridgit,

which microsoft version is yours? I've used 2010 at home and 2013 at office
sites as an intern or school.
That is my experience too. All the same keystrokes we learned in office 2003
still work in new versions of MS office suite. I hate the ribbons too. But
since I realized all the same commands work, I've actually been able to do
most formatting and editting without using the nasty ribbon. I can even
create bullets or numbered lists without the ribbon by pressing the
applications key and selecting my desired options.

Good discussion.

Ashley
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Michael,

Most the same key strokes work with new versions of MS Office. Very few are
different. Can you give an example? I hate the ribbons too, and dredded
switching over, but so far, most the old key strokes work.

Bridgit

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Wednesday, June 15, 2016
Bridgit and Sarah with Scrivener verses Word!

Thank you for this topic. I have been a Word user for some 30 years but
started out with Wordperfec. I have moved along with word, up to 2003. I do
not use all the tons of exxtra tools and gadgertry that Word has to offer;
to me, most of it is useless. I was a happy man until this MS came up with
the big changes to Word, with MSs 7 and Word 10? The switch over to a Ribbon
system really caused me some frustration. I have enough to learn and study
for without having to jump on another learning curve. I have a near new
computer with more than everything ever needed to get by with. However, with
the Ribbon and all the changes, I stuck with my 2033 XP compute running Word
2003. I use the keyboard to get around and the ribbon system is outrageous.
They should fire those techs who thought to mess up my life as they have so
done.

However, my stubbornness with the MS 7 and now 10 with the upgraded Word has
cut me off from entering many web sites that no longer allow the older IE to
enter or have access to a newer web site.
I use Jaws 8.5 on my older computer and it was funny. I needed some
information and so called the Jaws help line and the guy had to laugh. He
told me that he wasn't even born when 8.5 was released! There was no help.

This brings me to our discussion. Ok, I do have a tiny bit of vision but
still not enough to read the screen but I can see what is going on there.
I have shopped around because in my own writing, I often make mistakes that
I cannot see or catch. My formatting might get messed around with odd
characters, underlining and so forth. Now I found that this free program
called Jarte is the simplest word and text processing program out here. It
is free and even though I do not use it all the time, it is there. I do a
chapter or an article in word and copy it then download it into Jarte as a
plain text file. You can recopy or save your changes as a .doc file or go
back to your Word program and enter your new unformatted document. Then and
there it removes all formatting and gives me a clean document to work with.
What is nice is that it comes with a free version of Word Web. Check it out
for simplicity and ease.

Now this Scrivener thing, I would love to use it and get away from the Word
ribbon insanity. Insanity you say, sure, as an example, with Word
2003 if you want to change the size of a font or a single word from small to
large or from large to small you just use a key stroke. But to do this
simple action with a ribbon, it takes you ten minutes to go around and
around and back and forth and up and down to do a little task. That is only
one example of the insanity I speak of. If you never came to know the key
strokes in the older Word program you would not  know what I speak of.

I have been waiting for the Scrivener program for a while. Still doing some
research on it. I only want to know if it will work with Jaws 8.5 and then
on 15? In the meantime, I stick with Word 2003 and my XP system.
My new computer, well, I use it so far to do the extra research and as a
backup. Its nice but I don't have two years left in my life to learn this
new things. I guarantee that as soon as I learn it, which I started, they
switched to 8 and then to 10. forget it and forget them!

Also, I despise Microsoft for trying to jam their OS 10 down my throat.
Every time MS is allowed access to my computer, all my settings and programs
must be gone through again. My tech downloaded a little AP into my systems
that have put a stop to MS 10 invasions. Try it!

One last thing, if you only get one thing from this note, please, you got to
get the Word Web program. It is a fantastic dictionary and spelling and
research tool. I so often want a different word and use it as my alternitive
word or idea program . I might misspell a word on purpose and go into the
nearest lists and wow, I get lost in time, it has everything you can imagine
for a writer. Lets say you are looking for an explorers name  so you type in
explorer or explorers and you not only get lists of comparable words but
then you get a list of famous explorers. You can do this with trees, with
composers or whatever. It brings up all the dictionary uses of a word and
you can click on verb, adverbs or ? and you can also go into the net from
there for more on that word if need be. For a writer, this Word Web is the
greatest ever. Check it out and with Jarte, you get the free version. They
also have a free version but it is the basic program.

Thanks

TickPub Thanks You,
All The Best And More,
Regards And Respect From Michael!
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