[Stylist] Accessible tools
Brad Dunsé
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On 10/2/2019 7:43 PM, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> No, I don’t think these are very accessible, but again, I don’t
> personally know any professional copywriters or creative writers who
> use any of these tools. Nothing wrong with using these tools, but I
> don’t know how common it is either.
>
> Bridgit
>
> *From:*Stylist <stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Brad Dunsé
> via Stylist
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:36 PM
> *To:* Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Bridgit
>
> Just the tools I mentioned originally: Gramarly, Hemingway, and
> ProWritingAids. They are tools designed to strengthen copy. They'll
> identify weaker parts.
>
> They aren't a necessity, but they are tools, similar to how we use
> spell checkers.
>
> Doesn't sound like there are any accessible options rising to the top.
>
> No problem, just checking.
>
> Brad Dunsé
>
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>
> Brad,
>
> I also do freelance marketing, just recently finished work on
> doing copy for a company’s website. During my undergrad many years
> ago, I interned with a PR firm, providing writing and editing
> among other things. So, first, this group is not specific to
> creative writers, grin. I’m also a creative writer but that
> doesn’t pay the bills, ha.
>
> When I mentioned adjectives and nouns and verbs, it was only
> because you mentioned it in your initial inquiry. But yes, when
> writing copy, you don’t generally get super descriptive. You do
> want tight control of syntax though. But with journalism,
> depending on the type of journalism, you can be descriptive. I’ve
> written literary journalism, and you definitely use literary
> devices including descriptive language.
>
> Do you have a specific tool in mind? There are tools to help with
> structure and format, essentially templates. But again, others I
> know in the industry, sighted and blind, just know this; they
> don’t necessarily utilize these. People and companies do use
> platforms like Google Docs and Quip, especially for group
> projects. Publisher is another tool, but this is again more for
> production purposes, lay-out and all that.
>
> Of course, for PR and marketing and journalism, AP style is
> generally used. I used to have an accessible AP style guide but
> it’s old and outdated; I now just refer to Purdue Owl’s website.
>
> Sorry if I’m not providing answers. I guess I’m not completely
> sure what your asking. Do you mean editing tools? Like a device or
> software that can help edit? I’ve heard of Grammerly but have no
> experience with it, nor do I personally know any writers or
> copywriters who use it.
>
> Bridgit
>
> *From:*Stylist <stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org>
> <mailto:stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org> *On Behalf Of *Brad Dunsé via
> Stylist
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:51 PM
> *To:* Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Stylist <stylist at nfbnet.org>
> <mailto:stylist at nfbnet.org>
> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com> <mailto:lists at braddunse.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Hello Brigit,
>
> Appreciate that, your perspective being studied and all.
>
> My bad for not saying, but the purpose wasn't so much for prose or
> literary writing.
>
> I'm a direct response web copywriter.
>
> Writer is probably a misnomer. We're more idea communicators than
> writers.
>
> Admittedly, that is the opposite end of the sphere to this list,
> and questionable whether I should be on it really. But, I thought
> to ask anyway since it is a list of blind writers, just in case.
>
> I do have a group of peers I can run copy by for feedback. That's
> not an issue.
>
> Plus, I've been writing for a bit now.
>
> Even so, it's courteous to have the best copy possible before
> asking, since they are taking their valuable time to read it.
>
> As good as we in this industry might think we are, trained and
> all, A List copywriters use these AI tools everyday in their
> writing to tighten copy.
>
> Mobile viewing has put more pressure on tighter writing. Frankly,
> plump use of adjectives, as beautiful as they can be, often have
> little place in this type of writing. Unless one can reduce word
> count without appearing flowery.
>
> I'm not in a position to presume I'm better than my mentors,
> earning several hundred thousand a year doing what they do best.
> Or even someone such as yourself, MFA in writing. So, I'm looking
> for accessible tools they use, or equal to those tools to make
> myself a bit more competitive in my trade.
>
> If it works for them, it can work for me.
>
> Maybe that shines a little more light on it.
>
> Appreciate the feedback.
>
> Brad Dunsé
>
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>
> Brad,
>
> Generally, writers just understand style and grammar. There’s
> not really a tool other than your own mind and the mind of
> fellow writers to know, notice and provide feedback on these
> things. I have my MFA in writing and know several published
> writers, and each of us has studied, formally and imformally,
> how to write and the process of writing. In addition to simply
> knowing what to look for in your writing when revising, it’s
> good to have a small, close-knit group of fellow writers who
> can help in the revision process, which includes style, format
> and grammar.
>
> And BTW, adjectives are a good and necessary part of writing,
> but the best writing relies on strong nouns and verbs to
> “punch up” the writing, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> *From:*Stylist <stylist-bounces at nfbnet.org>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:50 PM
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> *Cc:* Brad Dunsé <lists at braddunse.com>
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> *Subject:* [Stylist] Accessible tools
>
> Hello List,
>
> Looking for accessible tools equal to Hemingway, Grammarly, or
> ProWritingAid? Or, if there are scripts or setup to make them
> more accessible.
>
> Do you use any tools for style, grammar, reduce passivity,
> reduce unnecessary adjectives, and make your writing punchier.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brad Dunsé
>
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