[Trainer-talk] iPhone/iPad assessments: Trainer-talk Digest, Vol 97, Issue 1
Bonnie Lucas
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Thu Aug 1 16:48:39 UTC 2013
I found it by clicking the link for it, however, it was kind of difficult to get to it and I clicked open and my computer downloaded it anyway. Then, I couldn't get it to open because it was zipped and when I did the normal thing to unzip, I could not find it. Anyway, Thanks for pasting it. I will just keep that. It looks like a great assessment! Thank you for sharing and I'll look at it more closely to see if there is anything I might add or comment on.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:56:59 -0700
From: maryfairy2880 at gmail.com
To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] iPhone iPad assessments
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Hello Julie,
I am very interested in receiving & reviewing the iPhone/iPad assessment documents you mentioned.
However, I cannot find the attachments.
I believe the attachments may have been "scrubbed"?
I'd be very grateful if you would send them to me at maryfairy2880 at gmail.com Thanks for your hard work on this topic!
M
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:41:49 -0400
> From: "Julie Adkins" <jadkins at mabnc.org>
> To: <techexchange at freelists.org>, "List for teachers and trainers of
> adaptive technology" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>,
> <IDevices-join at GatewayForTheBlind.com>, <infotech at lists.aerbvi.org>
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] assessment document for iPhone and iPad
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>
> This is an assessment document I created for determining if a client
> can use an iPad or iPhone. You are welcome to use it if you wish, but
> most of all, I would love feedback on other questions we should ask,
> tasks we should ask someone to perform, etc. during the assessment. Thanks!
>
>
>
> By the way, the apps listed are the just the ones I happen to
> prefer-for our purposes, I am trying to keep the list as short
> possible. I may end up having to shorten it even more.
>
>
>
> Julie Adkins, MA, CVRT
>
> Assistive Technology Supervisor
>
> Certified Vision Rehabilitation Therapist
>
> Metrolina Association for the Blind
>
> 704 Louise Avenue
>
> Charlotte, NC 28204
>
> 704-887-5121
>
> www.mabnc.org
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:11:26 -0400
From: "Julie Adkins" <jadkins at mabnc.org>
To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
<trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] iPhone iPad assessments
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Yes, the same thing happened on the other list I sent it to. I have pasted the text from it below.
MAB Assessment for iPad / iPhone revised July 2013
1. Previous computer experience:
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
2. Does client currently use any access technology such as JAWS or Zoomtext?
3. Does client want to rely on vision (Zoom) or voice (VoiceOver)?
4. Does client want to use the device outside of the home? (If so, client will need access to wifi or will need to buy a data package).
5. Can client afford the monthly cost associated with the device?
iPhone: __ Yes __ No
iPad: __ Yes __ No
?
6. On the iPad, can client see to navigate by touch without using Zoom?
7. Can client read text on iPad if font size is increased? (Note: this only works in Mail, Contacts, Messages, Calendar, and Notes, and if too big it can overlap).
8. Does changing to white on black (Invert Colors) make a difference?
9. When using Zoom on the iPad, can pt keep his/her place when scrolling to track lines of magnified text?
10. Can pt hear and understand the voice when using the Speak tool to listen to selected text?
11. If the client only needs speech on demand, does he/she have the manual dexterity to select text so the Speak tool can be utilized? A user has to be able to drag to select the text in Safari, since there is no ?select all? in Safari like there is in Mail. Also, a two-finger tap will select a paragraph in iBooks on the iPad, but not on the iPhone.
12. On iPhone, can client hear and understand the VoiceOver voice?
13. Does client seem to have the physical capability to use gestures?
14. Does client seem to have any difficulty learning/remembering?
15. Does client have a family member or friend to assist with things like entering contacts if they don?t want to (or can?t) do it independently?
16. Any reasons that pt would be unable to use the iPhone or iPad? (Physical dexterity issues, memory issues, pt only has basic needs that do not require the use of complex technology, etc.).
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________________________________
Goals:
__ Making phone calls (can be done on iPad, too, using Magic Jack)
__ Facetime or Skype (Skype may be preferable since the other person does not have to have an iDevice)
__ Surfing the internet for general information
__ Online shopping (websites and/or Amazon app)
__ Using email
__ Texting
__ Calendar (appointments)
__ Reminders
__ Recording voice memos
__ Magnifying text
__ OCR
__ Identification/labeling
__ Navigation (GPS) (actual usage in public would be done with an O&M instructor)
__ Color identification (apps are not always accurate)
__ Listen to Podcasts (include this if we are going to recommend they listen to Apple
Vis for learning purposes)
__ Syncing to iTunes on a PC (This would only be for people who can already use a PC with Zoomtext or JAWS)
__ Taking pictures (we may not be including this)
__ Word processing/document creation for school or work (we may not be including this)
__ Accessing and listening to music (we may not be including this)
__ Does client have any computer related goals that CANNOT be accomplished on an iPhone or iPad?
If yes: ____________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
__________________________________________________________________
Home setup:
1. Does client own a PC, or will the device be used as their primary computer?
2. Would client like to hook up to an external monitor?
__ existing VGA monitor (requires VGA adapter) __ existing HDMI monitor (requires an HDMI adapter) __ existing HDMI TV (requires an AppleTV device) __ none of the above; client needs an HDMI TV and an Apple TV device
3. Does client already have a wireless network set up?
Password: ______________________
4. Would client like to use an external keyboard?
5. Does client already have an email address?
If yes: _________________________________________
6. Does client need the ability to print?
Already own a wireless printer?
7. Does client already have an Apple ID?
If yes: ___________________________________________
Data package:
1. If use iPad, do they want a data package to use if they are somewhere without wifi?
2. What cell phone carrier do they prefer to use?
__ Verizon __ AT&T __ Sprint __ T-Mobile
Equipment recommended
__ Tactile screen protector for iPhone from SpeedDots:
__ Standard (full keyboard)
__ Advanced (only F and J plus and buttons)
__ Protective case (such as Otterbox or Life Proof)
__ External wireless keyboard:
__Stand Alone __ Built into case (Chester Creek has one with LP keys)
__ Compass-type stand
__ Magnetic overlay keyboard for iPad
__ HDMI TV
__ Apple TV
__ Stylus
__ HDMI adapter
__ VGA adapter
__ wireless printer
Possible app recommendations:
__ VIA (recommends apps specifically of benefit for people with vision impairment)
__ ZoomContacts (iPad only) (magnifies contacts and puts them in high contrast colors)
__ Bigger and Brighter (magnify, adjust lighting and contrast, reverse brightness, take
still image and make adjustments to it)
__ Text Detective for OCR (must be used in landscape orientation)
__ Image to Text for OCR (can use in portrait orientation, image is EMAILED)
__ Tap Tap See (take a picture, it uploads to a database, and in a few seconds you get a response telling you what the item is. Will also identify money).
__ VizWiz (take a picture, record a question about it, real people respond to your question)
__ DigitEyes (audio scanner and labeler, bar code sort of like the Pen Friend that also enables you to make your own labels)
__ An app for printing from a regular printer (Printer Pro, Print Direct, etc.?whatever works with the person?s wireless printer).
__ Fleksy (predictive typing app; makes typing easier for VoiceOver users)
__ Amazon (works well with VO; simple to navigate)
__ Access World (learn about blindness-related technology)
__ NFB Newsline
__ App for NLS BARD (when it becomes available)
__ Voice Dream Reader (will also read Bookshare books for 99 cents more)
__ Read2Go (for reading Bookshare books)
__ ColorVisor or ColoredEye (whichever one we decide is better/simpler)
__ Bible Gateway (easy to use app to read the bible?can search for scriptures and bible topics)
__ Around Me (to find out what things are around you)
Note: Other navigation apps such as Navigon, Blindsquare, Ariadne, Sendero GPS, or Google Maps would be taught through an O&M program by the mobility instructor, not as part of an AT program.
Other:
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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To: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Trainer-talk] iPhone iPad assessments
Hello Julie,
I am very interested in receiving & reviewing the iPhone/iPad assessment documents you mentioned.
However, I cannot find the attachments.
I believe the attachments may have been "scrubbed"?
I'd be very grateful if you would send them to me at maryfairy2880 at gmail.com Thanks for your hard work on this topic!
M
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:41:49 -0400
> From: "Julie Adkins" <jadkins at mabnc.org>
> To: <techexchange at freelists.org>, "List for teachers and trainers of
> adaptive technology" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>,
> <IDevices-join at GatewayForTheBlind.com>, <infotech at lists.aerbvi.org>
> Subject: [Trainer-talk] assessment document for iPhone and iPad
> Message-ID: <00b801ce8d54$8c660ab0$a5322010$@mabnc.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> This is an assessment document I created for determining if a client
> can use an iPad or iPhone. You are welcome to use it if you wish, but
> most of all, I would love feedback on other questions we should ask,
> tasks we should ask someone to perform, etc. during the assessment. Thanks!
>
>
>
> By the way, the apps listed are the just the ones I happen to
> prefer-for our purposes, I am trying to keep the list as short
> possible. I may end up having to shorten it even more.
>
>
>
> Julie Adkins, MA, CVRT
>
> Assistive Technology Supervisor
>
> Certified Vision Rehabilitation Therapist
>
> Metrolina Association for the Blind
>
> 704 Louise Avenue
>
> Charlotte, NC 28204
>
> 704-887-5121
>
> www.mabnc.org
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:16:12 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
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Subject: [Trainer-talk] Fwd: Word 2013 with JAWS for Windows Training
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>
>
>
>For more information, to review the table of contents and to register,
>please visit:
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:42:04 -0500
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-talk] iPhone iPad assessments
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Actually, attachments are allowed, and passed on this list. Except for digest mode, where they are stripped and a link is palaced in the message.
Dave
At 03:11 PM 7/31/2013, you wrote:
>Yes, the same thing happened on the other list I sent it to. I have
>pasted the text from it below. MAB Assessment for iPad /
>iPhone revised
>July 2013 1. Previous computer
>experience:
>__________________________________________________________________
>__________________________________________________________________
>2. Does client currently use any access
>technology such as JAWS or Zoomtext? 3. Does
>client want to rely on vision (Zoom) or voice
>(VoiceOver)? 4. Does client want to use the
>device outside of the home? (If so, client will need access to wifi or
>will need to buy a data package). 5. Can client afford the monthly cost
>associated with the device? iPhone: __
>Yes __ No iPad: __ Yes __ No ???
>6. On the iPad, can client see to navigate
>by touch without using Zoom? 7. Can client read text on iPad if font
>size is increased? (Note: this only works in Mail, Contacts, Messages,
>Calendar, and Notes, and if too big it can overlap). 8. Does changing
>to white on black (Invert Colors) make a difference? 9. When using
>Zoom on the iPad, can pt keep his/her place when scrolling to track
>lines of magnified text? 10. Can pt hear and understand the voice when
>using the Speak tool to listen to selected text? 11. If the client
>only needs speech on demand, does he/she have the manual dexterity to
>select text so the Speak tool can be utilized? A user has to be able
>to
>drag to select the text in Safari, since
>there is no ???select all??? in Safari like there is in Mail. Also, a
>two-finger tap will select a paragraph in iBooks on the iPad, but not
>on the iPhone. 12. On iPhone, can client hear and understand the
>VoiceOver voice?
>13. Does client seem to have the physical capability to use gestures?
>14. Does client seem to have any difficulty learning/remembering? 15.
>Does client have a family member or friend to assist with things like
>entering contacts if they don???t want to (or can???t) do it
>independently? 16. Any reasons that pt would be unable to use the
>iPhone or iPad? (Physical dexterity issues, memory issues, pt only has
>basic needs that do not require the use of complex technology, etc.).
>_____________________________________________________________________
>_____________________________________________________________________
>_____________________________________________________________________
>Goals: __ Making phone calls (can be done on iPad, too, using Magic
>Jack) __ Facetime or Skype (Skype may be preferable since the other
>person does not have to have an iDevice) __ Surfing the internet for
>general
>information __ Online shopping
>(websites and/or Amazon app) __ Using email __
>Texting __ Calendar (appointments) __
>Reminders __ Recording voice memos __ Magnifying text __ OCR __
>Identification/labeling __ Navigation (GPS) (actual usage in public
>would be done with an O&M instructor) __ Color identification (apps are
>not always accurate) __ Listen to Podcasts (include this if we are
>going
>to recommend they listen to Apple Vis for
>learning purposes) __ Syncing to iTunes on a PC (This would only be for
>people who can already use a PC with Zoomtext or JAWS) __ Taking
>pictures (we may not be including this) __ Word processing/document
>creation for school or work (we may not be including this) __ Accessing
>and listening to music (we may not be including
>this) __ Does client have any computer related goals that CANNOT be
>accomplished on an iPhone or iPad? If
>yes:
>____________________________________________________________
>__________________________________________________________________
>__________________________________________________________________
>Home setup: 1. Does client own a PC, or will the device be used as
>their primary computer?
>2. Would client like to hook up to an external monitor? __ existing
>VGA monitor (requires VGA
>adapter) __ existing HDMI monitor (requires an HDMI adapter) __
>existing HDMI TV (requires an AppleTV device) __ none of the above;
>client needs an HDMI TV and an Apple TV device
>3. Does client already have a wireless
>network set up?
>Password: ______________________
>4. Would client like to use an external
>keyboard? 5. Does client already have an
>email address? If
>yes: _________________________________________
>6. Does client need the ability to
>print? Already own a wireless
>printer? 7. Does client already have an
>Apple ID? If
>yes:
>___________________________________________ Data
>package: 1. If use iPad, do they want a data
>package to use if they are somewhere without wifi? 2. What cell phone
>carrier do they prefer
>to use? __ Verizon __ AT&T __
>Sprint __ T-Mobile Equipment recommended __
>Tactile screen protector for iPhone from
>SpeedDots: __ Standard (full keyboard) __
>Advanced (only F and J plus and buttons) __ Protective case (such as
>Otterbox or Life Proof)
>__ External wireless keyboard: __Stand
>Alone __ Built into case (Chester Creek has
>one with LP keys) __ Compass-type stand __ Magnetic overlay keyboard
>for iPad __ HDMI TV __ Apple TV __ Stylus __ HDMI adapter __ VGA
>adapter __ wireless printer Possible app
>recommendations: __ VIA (recommends apps specifically of benefit for
>people with vision
>impairment) __ ZoomContacts (iPad only) (magnifies contacts and puts
>them in high contrast colors) __ Bigger and Brighter (magnify, adjust
>lighting and contrast, reverse
>brightness, take still image and make
>adjustments to it) __ Text Detective for OCR (must be used in landscape
>orientation) __ Image to Text for OCR (can use in portrait orientation,
>image is EMAILED) __ Tap Tap See (take a picture, it uploads to a
>database, and in a few seconds you get a response telling you what the
>item is. Will also identify money). __ VizWiz (take a picture, record
>a question about it, real people respond to your
>question) __ DigitEyes (audio scanner and labeler, bar code sort of
>like the Pen Friend that also enables you to make your own labels) __
>An app for printing from a regular printer (Printer Pro, Print Direct,
>etc.??whatever works with the person???s wireless printer). __ Fleksy
>(predictive typing app; makes typing easier for VoiceOver users) __
>Amazon (works well with VO; simple to navigate) __ Access World (learn
>about blindness-related technology) __ NFB Newsline __ App for NLS BARD
>(when it becomes available) __ Voice Dream Reader (will also read
>Bookshare books for 99 cents more) __ Read2Go (for reading Bookshare
>books) __ ColorVisor or ColoredEye (whichever one we decide is
>better/simpler) __ Bible Gateway (easy to use app to read the bible?can
>search for sccriptures and bible
>topics) __ Around Me (to find out what things are around you) Note:
>Other navigation apps such as Navigon, Blindsquare, Ariadne, Sendero
>GPS, or Google Maps would be taught through an O&M program by the
>mobility instructor, not as part of an AT program. Other:
>_______________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________
>_______________________________________________________________________
>__________________________________
>-----Original Message----- From: Trainer-talk
>[mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>maryfairy2880 at gmail.com Sent:
>Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:57 AM To:
>trainer-talk at nfbnet.org Subject: [Trainer-talk] iPhone iPad assessments
>Hello Julie, I am very interested in receiving & reviewing the
>iPhone/iPad assessment documents you mentioned.
>However, I cannot find the attachments. I believe the attachments may
>have been "scrubbed"? I'd be very grateful if you would send them to me
>at maryfairy2880 at gmail.com Thanks for your hard work on this topic! M >
>Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:41:49
>-0400 > From: "Julie Adkins"
><jadkins at mabnc.org> > To:
><techexchange at freelists.org>, "List for
>teachers and trainers of > adaptive
>technology" <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>, >
><IDevices-join at GatewayForTheBlind.com>,
><infotech at lists.aerbvi.org> > Subject:
>[Trainer-talk] assessment document for iPhone and iPad > Message-ID:
><00b801ce8d54$8c660ab0$a5322010$@mabnc.org> >
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This is an assessment
>document I created for determining if a client > can use an iPad or
>iPhone. You are welcome to use it if you wish, but > most of all, I
>would love feedback on other questions we should ask, > tasks we should
>ask someone to perform, etc. during the assessment. Thanks! > > > > By
>the way, the apps listed are the just the ones I happen to > prefer-for
>our purposes, I am trying to keep the list as short > possible. I may
>end up having to shorten it even more. > > > > Julie Adkins, MA, CVRT >
>> Assistive Technology Supervisor > > Certified Vision Rehabilitation
>Therapist > > Metrolina Association for the Blind > > 704 Louise Avenue
>> > Charlotte, NC 28204 > >
>704-887-5121 > > www.mabnc.org > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This
>e-mail message, including any > attachments, is for the sole use of the
>intended recipients(s) and may > contain confidential and privileged
>information. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure or distribution
>is prohibited. If you are not > the intended recipient, please contact
>the sender by reply e-mail and > destroy all copies of the original
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