[Trainer-Talk] adaptive tech qualifications

[David Andrews]

No, we don't give them the questions in advance, that isn't really a 
test.  We do have a study guide, but it just identifies the areas 
that will appear on the test, not the actual questions.

Dave

At 12:32 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>All of that sounds reasonable.
>Are the exact sequence of questions and answers distributed to the
>candidate?
>I would think even you would agree that just reciting desired answers
>doesn't mean much as far as being qualified compared to actually providing
>training for a real client.
>Bryan
>
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>David Andrews via Trainer-Talk
>Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 11:21 PM
>To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
>Cc: David Andrews
>Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] adaptive tech qualifications
>
>There are some tests, a bit of self study, and a teaching
>demo.  Basically you take a basic test, then tests in the areas you
>want to teach, JAWS, Window-Eyes, Zoomtext, K1000, Stream etc. In
>addition there is material on how to teach adults, that you must
>study, then pass a test on, and finally, you have to pick a topic,
>and teach for half an hour on it.  You either teach a blind person,
>or a sighted staff member under sleep shades.
>
>And ... at certain points, when tests are updated you must recertify.
>
>Dave
>
>At 10:08 PM 12/29/2015, you wrote:
> >Hi Dave,
> >
> >Thank you for your reply.
> >Could you describe what is involved to be a contractor in Minnesota?
> >Bryan
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >David Andrews via Trainer-Talk
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:49 PM
> >To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> >Cc: David Andrews
> >Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] adaptive tech qualifications
> >
> >Brian:
> >
> >As one of the people who developed the certification process in
> >Minnesota, I can assure you that it is not as you describe.
> >
> >David Andrews
> >
> >At 08:50 PM 12/29/2015, you wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I wasn't thinking of 15k for Cathy's course.
> > >I was thinking of comptia A+, mos, cisco, etc.
> > >
> > >You say you passed certification in Minnesota.
> > >I'm curious to know if that is similar to Missouri where the agency sends
> > >you the questions and answers then you recite them in a few months?
> > >Thanks,
> > >Bryan
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > >Guerra Access Technology Training LLC via Trainer-Talk
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 8:01 PM
> > >To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> > >Cc: Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> > >Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] adaptive tech qualifications
> > >
> > >Brian et al-
> > >
> > >I think each state, should offer a certification like, Minnesota, Texas,
> > >Florida.  A National certification does exist but the cost is slightly
>high
> > >and what exactly do you get for it?
> > >
> > >I think reading book or taking a class, does not and should not allow
> > >someone to call themselves a trainer.
> > >
> > >I took certifications in Minnesota and past their exams, which allowed me
> >to
> > >be certified by the state.
> > >
> > >Many different organizations may teach people all they want to know about
> > >Screen readers, iOS, Windows, Microsoft, etc., but having someone pass a
> > >teaching literacy course is something else.
> > >
> > >Always wanting to help someone is noble, but not everyone can teach.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Respectfully,
> > >
> > >Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> > >An Authorized state of Minnesota Vendor for Technology Training
> > >
> > >Call Guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> > >guerra Access Technology Training LLC
> > >Visit Guerra Access Technology Training on the Web
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > >Bryan Schulz via Trainer-Talk
> > >Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 7:38 PM
> > >To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> > ><trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >Cc: Bryan Schulz <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> > >Subject: [Trainer-Talk] adaptive tech qualifications
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I appreciate seeing how others are willing to offer sources to learn
>vo/mac
> > >over the last several days but want to ask a question.
> > >Does anyone see an issue with reading a book and being able to call
> >yourself
> > >an adaptive technology trainer?
> > >That's kin to watching judge Judy for six months and calling yourself a
> > >lawyer.
> > >I don't mean to criticize anyone but just think that adaptive tech
>trainers
> > >or contractors should have to obtain nationally recognized certifications
> > >instead of just reading keyboard commands or studying answers to the
>exact
> > >questions asked during an interview with state agency staff then depend
>on
> >a
> > >district supervisor liking you in order to succeed or be forced to return
> >to
> > >your original state due to how clients are distributed.
> > >Bryan

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
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