[Trainer-Talk] Android/Talkback Questions

Mon Apr 4 01:59:24 UTC 2016

Hi and thanks for the fantastic answers here!
I have 2 additional questions. 
I will soon be using the desk phone dx 650 which has an android screen and uses all these gestures, has anyone ever used this or a similar system?
Also, do the same gestures and principles apply apply to the Amazon Fire tablets?
Thanks for any help.
Regards
Kerryann 

Kerryann Ifill 

> On 3 Apr 2016, at 8:49 PM, Poppa Bear via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good stuff here. Glad you gave some thorough answers. I have a S5 around the
> hous and a Galaxy tablet and I can never really get the hang of them, but I
> may update them to the newest OS and give em another try. I have one at my
> job for student training and I guess that I will need to get the hang of it
> so that I can be able to teach it to my clients who only have access to an
> android device. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> J.J. Meddaugh via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 3:47 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> Cc: J.J. Meddaugh
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Android/Talkback Questions
> 
> Answers below.
>> 1. I was actually pleased that I was able to set up the tablet by getting
> it on our Wifi network as well as logging on with my Google account using
> Talkback, with very little Android experience. I have downloaded Marshmallow
> 6.0.1. However, in the Google Play store, is it necessary/required that I
> supply credit card info in my settings in order to download free app
> updates? I skipped this step during setup but wonder now if it's necessary
> to add this info.
> 
> I don't believe you need a credit card, just a Google account linked. 
> Updates will download automatically unless you turn this off under Play
> Store settings. Try downloading a free app to see if it lets you without a
> CC, it should be fine.
> 
> 
>> 2. When I first activated Talkback, it offered to start its interactive
> tutorial but I got sidetracked with another project and now I can't figure
> out how to reactivate it.
> 
> Go to settings, Accessibility, Talkback and it's there. TalkBack settings
> are also on this page.
> 
> 
>> 3. I really liked the fact that the keyboard defaulted to what iOS
> calls touch typing mode, where you slide around the keyboard and, when 
> you get to the correct letter, lifting your finger enters that 
> character; that was wonderful. However, while the network password 
> provided me with the word "dot" when entering a letter, the field for 
> the Google password provided no spoken feedback at all, initially 
> causing me to wonder whether I was typing anything or not. Why did this 
> happen? Incidentally, I really like that the "symbols" button displays a 
> row of numbers, along with commonly used symbols.
> 
> Go to Settings, Accessibility, and turn on speak passwords. Or plug in a 
> headset.
> 
>> 4. When the touch keyboard appears, it is on the opposite side of the
> tablet, making it necessary for me to reorient the tablet in order to 
> type. Is this a bug or by design and what are the reasons for this? Can 
> this behavior be changed?
> 
> Not sure about this one, maybe you're orienting it opposite of what most 
> people would expect? Which tablet do you have?
> 
>> 5. While typing, what's the quickest way to review, by characters and
> words, what you've entered?
> 
> What I do personally is to go into Talkback's settings, Manage Shortcut 
> gestures, and resassign swipe up to previous navigation level and swipe 
> down to next navigation level. Then I can swipe up or down to switch 
> between default, characters, words, lines, etc. Swipe right or left to 
> navigate by the desired level. Also, you can press the up or down volume 
> key in many editbox situations to navigate by character.
> 
> 
>> 6. What is the easiest way to determine which version of Talkback I'm
> using?
> It's listed at the top of the settings screen for Talkback.
> 
>> 7. I know that Ana has commented on this before but why on earth is
> double-tapping such a hit and miss affair? It seems like I sometimes 
> have to perform a pretty heavy double-tap in order for the tablet to 
> register my input.
> I haven't had problems here. Some phones have a touch sensitivity option 
> that can adjust this behavior.
> 
>> 9. Is there an equivalent of VoiceOver practice mode, where I can
> perform gestures and have them identified without performing any actions?
> Not to my knowledge currently.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> J.J.
> 
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