[Trainer-Talk] Jaws vs Apple

[David Andrews]

I do not wish to start an Apple versus Windows debate here, however, 
I must say that I can't agree with all you say. Yes, Apple is to be 
applauded for the level of accessibility that it provides in its 
operating systems, and while VoiceOver on the phone, and on the Mac 
does work with many problems, it does not work with all of them, as 
you state. Further, for a variety of reasons, Windows is widely used 
in the work place, and many of us have no choice.

It would be inappropriate for the NFB to pick one OS over another. It 
is our place to make each as accessible as we can, through our efforts.

David Andrews

At 10:02 AM 8/27/2016, you wrote:
>There always seems to be an overwhelming number of questions of how 
>to interface jaws with Windows programs which makes me wonder why 
>NFB does not at least enlighten everyone as to why Apple might be an 
>easier and better choice.  In stead of using a aftermarket program 
>to provide boys over functions iOS Apple on phone and pad build this 
>accessibility feature into the operating system upfront which means 
>voiceover will work with any program that can be run on the iPhone 
>or iPad.  And interesting observation is that I don't see many 
>questions about Apple on the trainer talk possibly this is because 
>Apple has an incredibly good assessability help line where you can 
>call them and they will tell you how to resolve your issues. 
>Additionally now with the iPad Pro smart keyboard pencil touchscreen 
>Siri lots of memory it just doesn't seem to be reasonable to spend 
>more money on a standalone computer and jaws programming when the 
>iPad Pro group provides a much better bang for the buck.
>Peter
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> > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:29:53 -0500
> > From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
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> > Hasn't MS Publisher been discontinued.  If so I seriously doubt a
> > screen reader would make any effort to support it.
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> > Dave
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> > At 07:27 AM 8/25/2016, you wrote:
> >> Has anyone tried to use this  combination to create documents?
> >> I have a customer  interested in doing so, and the last time I tried
> >> to work with Publisher somewhere around Office 2007 it was not very
> >> easily done, and fairly messy.
> >> I'd appreciate any thoughts you all may have.
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