[Trainer-Talk] More on those iDEVICE using students

[Marianne Denning]

I use Gmail in standard view on my computer and can create folders. I move
the e-mails into the desired folders and they no longer show up in my
inbox. I can see the folders on my iPhone. There may be a way to create
folders on the iPhone but I don't know how. Also, does she complete all of
her work on an iDevice? That seems pretty limiting to me.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:45 PM, dean martineau via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> One can use Gmail labels in the mail app, and that ability may be worth
> exploiting.
>
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Adding to the thread from a few weeks ago which I started - I just had a
> conversation with one of my college students who dropped in to see if her
> book would be done soon. I do alternate media and am only unofficially a
> trainer.
>
> I had used our cloud storage to send her an earlier book, and she
> complained she couldn't figure out how it worked. So I suggested she pull
> up the email  the system sent her so I could help her download the book.
>
> She started digging through her inbox using voiceOver and there were
> thousands of messages in there. Thousands!
>
> Well, probably only a hundred, because I think that's all the iPHONE will
> show you, just the most recent hundred.
>
> But it felt like thousands, and she was unable to find the message from
> One-drive with the link to download the file I sent her.
>
> I realized my techniques for organizing wouldn't work for her; I use
> Outlook at work; Thunderbird at home. I make heavy use of filters and
> folders and rules. I am a geek.
>
> She is a poor lost blind student on gmail, which uses labels and not
> folders. She isn't comfortable with a screen reader. She does everything on
> her phone.
>
> I know we had this conversation on the list before, but I feel so
> frustrated because I don't know how to help her. I've looked in to using
> Gmail labels, and there are keystrokes for doing it, but I don't even know
> if you can use gmail labels on your phone. I could suggest she learn the
> gmail or inbox apps, but I don't see her wanting to learn a lot more
> confusing techie stuff. I have suggested for example she try VoiceDream
> reader and she never has, perhaps because it's yet another new and
> confusing thing to try and figure out.
>
> I use my phone a lot too, but I can't imagine trying to use it as my
> primary email client or download attachments with it on a regular basis.  I
> download an attachment to read on my commute, but my computers are where I
> store and back up stuff.
>
> I feel like such an old fart because these young people don't want to
> learn computers or screen readers, but I haven't found one who is organized
> enough with mobile technology they can act as a role model.
>
> --Debee
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Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053