[Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

Fri Apr 14 12:24:19 UTC 2017

Deborah,

365 is very accessible with Jaws and as you pointed out it is a matter of
knowing what commands to use in order for it to get it to do what you
want.  I will try to do up a video to show you the steps to access this.
Thanks for sharing the exact link to what you are having difficulties with
as I will use this as an example.

This will be an audio/visual file so anyone will be able to see the issues
you describe. Give me some days to do it all.

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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>                 The recent newsletter sent out by Freedom Scientific
> indicated near the end of next month, they'd offer a webinar on Office 365,
> which I desperately need, as I do continue to struggle with it at work.
>
> I see it's not in their listing of upcoming webinars yet, but that's
> probably because marketing got a little ahead of reality.
>
> One problem most of my BVI students really struggle with is accessing the
> sharepoint links I send them. I produce alternate media for a community
> college. The sad thing here is that my LD students don't have any trouble
> with sharepoint links; it's the JAWS users who are really struggling. Even
> I an experienced blind user of several screen readers find the experience
> inconsistent.
>
> For example this link:
>                 https://foothilldeanza-my.sharepoint.com/personal/
> 10270840_fhda_edu/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?folderid=
> 15189d7ac2cea4d0da2d7dc538175c828&authkey=ARxTCF4ObRJdv7qNGDkvX8Y
>
> is a typical guest access link to a folder for a single student with all
> his textbooks. Some are in PDF, some in Word, some in Daisy, you get the
> idea; it's whatever I've been able to collect for him.
>
> He needs to open the Daisy in FS reader, the PDF files in Adobe, and the
> Word docs in Wordpad or Word, whatever he has on his home, lab  or
> classroom PCs. He might be in Windows 7 8 or 10; he might be using FireFox,
> IE Chrome, or even heaven forbid, Edge!
>
> Anyway, if you pull up this link  and try to navigate with JAWS it's
> fairly challenging. You are     sometimes in virtual cursor mode, sometimes
> in application mode. Normally you can right-click on a link to download a
> file, but that too, doesn't work everywhere here. Sometimes if you press
> Enter on a file it loads up in an inaccessible view in something called
> "Word Online" which apparently is different than Office 365. The
> terminology is confusing, SharePoint, One-Drive, Office 365, Office online;
> someone should do a whole webinar unraveling all of it!
>
> The reason I don't use Google Drive, DropBox, SugarSync, or any of the
> other file sharing services is that our college has standardized on
> Sharepoint, and my LD students love it. Also at CSUN, Microsoft spent so
> much effort talking about how accessible Office now is, so I keep thinking
> I'm missing something.
>
> The files are in a 7-column grid, but most of its columns are not relevant
> to someone simply trying to access those files. If you tab to the actions
> menyu you sometimes find it, sometimes tab right in to the tool bar or
> address bar. If you find the actions menu you get choices like "share" and
> "print" but not "download" which is the typical choice most students more
> frequently need to access their books. And if you tab to actions how can
> you be sure you've selected the right file to act on?
>
> If you wanted to load one of the Daisy books in FS reader, that would add
> additional challenges. You also have to be sure those PDFS don't load up in
> the browser, so that's more configuration which may or may not have
> happened on a particular student's computer.
>
> This whole cloud experience is both frustrating for me and my students and
> what I most need is a clear, unambiguous set of steps I can give them to
> access their files when I send them a sharepoint link like the one above.
>
> I hope the upcoming FS webinar will cover this. I have written Dan Clark
> asking him to tackle this challenge. Comments from other trainers are
> welcome and have fun exploring this sharepoint link with your screen reader!
>
> --Debee
> (Deborah Armstrong, De Anza College Alternate Media.)
>
> *** Feel free to forward this to anyone. ****
>
>
>
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