[Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

[Nancy Coffman]

Thank you Denice. That will be useful for a lot of us.

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> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:24 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Deborah,
> 
> 365 is very accessible with Jaws and as you pointed out it is a matter of
> knowing what commands to use in order for it to get it to do what you
> want.  I will try to do up a video to show you the steps to access this.
> Thanks for sharing the exact link to what you are having difficulties with
> as I will use this as an example.
> 
> This will be an audio/visual file so anyone will be able to see the issues
> you describe. Give me some days to do it all.
> 
> *Dr Denise M Robinson*
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> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>>                The recent newsletter sent out by Freedom Scientific
>> indicated near the end of next month, they'd offer a webinar on Office 365,
>> which I desperately need, as I do continue to struggle with it at work.
>> 
>> I see it's not in their listing of upcoming webinars yet, but that's
>> probably because marketing got a little ahead of reality.
>> 
>> One problem most of my BVI students really struggle with is accessing the
>> sharepoint links I send them. I produce alternate media for a community
>> college. The sad thing here is that my LD students don't have any trouble
>> with sharepoint links; it's the JAWS users who are really struggling. Even
>> I an experienced blind user of several screen readers find the experience
>> inconsistent.
>> 
>> For example this link:
>>                https://foothilldeanza-my.sharepoint.com/personal/
>> 10270840_fhda_edu/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?folderid=
>> 15189d7ac2cea4d0da2d7dc538175c828&authkey=ARxTCF4ObRJdv7qNGDkvX8Y
>> 
>> is a typical guest access link to a folder for a single student with all
>> his textbooks. Some are in PDF, some in Word, some in Daisy, you get the
>> idea; it's whatever I've been able to collect for him.
>> 
>> He needs to open the Daisy in FS reader, the PDF files in Adobe, and the
>> Word docs in Wordpad or Word, whatever he has on his home, lab  or
>> classroom PCs. He might be in Windows 7 8 or 10; he might be using FireFox,
>> IE Chrome, or even heaven forbid, Edge!
>> 
>> Anyway, if you pull up this link  and try to navigate with JAWS it's
>> fairly challenging. You are     sometimes in virtual cursor mode, sometimes
>> in application mode. Normally you can right-click on a link to download a
>> file, but that too, doesn't work everywhere here. Sometimes if you press
>> Enter on a file it loads up in an inaccessible view in something called
>> "Word Online" which apparently is different than Office 365. The
>> terminology is confusing, SharePoint, One-Drive, Office 365, Office online;
>> someone should do a whole webinar unraveling all of it!
>> 
>> The reason I don't use Google Drive, DropBox, SugarSync, or any of the
>> other file sharing services is that our college has standardized on
>> Sharepoint, and my LD students love it. Also at CSUN, Microsoft spent so
>> much effort talking about how accessible Office now is, so I keep thinking
>> I'm missing something.
>> 
>> The files are in a 7-column grid, but most of its columns are not relevant
>> to someone simply trying to access those files. If you tab to the actions
>> menyu you sometimes find it, sometimes tab right in to the tool bar or
>> address bar. If you find the actions menu you get choices like "share" and
>> "print" but not "download" which is the typical choice most students more
>> frequently need to access their books. And if you tab to actions how can
>> you be sure you've selected the right file to act on?
>> 
>> If you wanted to load one of the Daisy books in FS reader, that would add
>> additional challenges. You also have to be sure those PDFS don't load up in
>> the browser, so that's more configuration which may or may not have
>> happened on a particular student's computer.
>> 
>> This whole cloud experience is both frustrating for me and my students and
>> what I most need is a clear, unambiguous set of steps I can give them to
>> access their files when I send them a sharepoint link like the one above.
>> 
>> I hope the upcoming FS webinar will cover this. I have written Dan Clark
>> asking him to tackle this challenge. Comments from other trainers are
>> welcome and have fun exploring this sharepoint link with your screen reader!
>> 
>> --Debee
>> (Deborah Armstrong, De Anza College Alternate Media.)
>> 
>> *** Feel free to forward this to anyone. ****
>> 
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