[Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

Fri Apr 14 15:24:15 UTC 2017

Hi Greg

I am doing up an audio visual lesson right now with key commands that make
life a lot easier in 365--and this is specifically to what Deborah A was
asking for with sharepoint--the how to access items..which is a biggy and
then I will hit other areas as I have time

*Dr Denise M Robinson*
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
instruction for schools
Also Private training to your needs
423-573-6413

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Greg Aikens via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Denise,
> You are the first person I have seen say that 365 is "very" accessible. Do
> you have any resources you can share on that? Does your site include
> lessons on 365?
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Dr. Denise M Robinson via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:24 AM
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> Cc: Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS
>
> Deborah,
>
> 365 is very accessible with Jaws and as you pointed out it is a matter of
> knowing what commands to use in order for it to get it to do what you
> want.  I will try to do up a video to show you the steps to access this.
> Thanks for sharing the exact link to what you are having difficulties with
> as I will use this as an example.
>
> This will be an audio/visual file so anyone will be able to see the issues
> you describe. Give me some days to do it all.
>
> *Dr Denise M Robinson*
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual
> instruction for schools Also Private training to your needs
> 423-573-6413
>
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk <
> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> >                 The recent newsletter sent out by Freedom Scientific
> > indicated near the end of next month, they'd offer a webinar on Office
> > 365, which I desperately need, as I do continue to struggle with it at
> work.
> >
> > I see it's not in their listing of upcoming webinars yet, but that's
> > probably because marketing got a little ahead of reality.
> >
> > One problem most of my BVI students really struggle with is accessing
> > the sharepoint links I send them. I produce alternate media for a
> > community college. The sad thing here is that my LD students don't
> > have any trouble with sharepoint links; it's the JAWS users who are
> > really struggling. Even I an experienced blind user of several screen
> > readers find the experience inconsistent.
> >
> > For example this link:
> >                 https://foothilldeanza-my.sharepoint.com/personal/
> > 10270840_fhda_edu/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?folderid=
> > 15189d7ac2cea4d0da2d7dc538175c828&authkey=ARxTCF4ObRJdv7qNGDkvX8Y
> >
> > is a typical guest access link to a folder for a single student with
> > all his textbooks. Some are in PDF, some in Word, some in Daisy, you
> > get the idea; it's whatever I've been able to collect for him.
> >
> > He needs to open the Daisy in FS reader, the PDF files in Adobe, and
> > the Word docs in Wordpad or Word, whatever he has on his home, lab  or
> > classroom PCs. He might be in Windows 7 8 or 10; he might be using
> > FireFox, IE Chrome, or even heaven forbid, Edge!
> >
> > Anyway, if you pull up this link  and try to navigate with JAWS it's
> > fairly challenging. You are     sometimes in virtual cursor mode,
> sometimes
> > in application mode. Normally you can right-click on a link to
> > download a file, but that too, doesn't work everywhere here. Sometimes
> > if you press Enter on a file it loads up in an inaccessible view in
> > something called "Word Online" which apparently is different than
> > Office 365. The terminology is confusing, SharePoint, One-Drive,
> > Office 365, Office online; someone should do a whole webinar unraveling
> all of it!
> >
> > The reason I don't use Google Drive, DropBox, SugarSync, or any of the
> > other file sharing services is that our college has standardized on
> > Sharepoint, and my LD students love it. Also at CSUN, Microsoft spent
> > so much effort talking about how accessible Office now is, so I keep
> > thinking I'm missing something.
> >
> > The files are in a 7-column grid, but most of its columns are not
> > relevant to someone simply trying to access those files. If you tab to
> > the actions menyu you sometimes find it, sometimes tab right in to the
> > tool bar or address bar. If you find the actions menu you get choices
> > like "share" and "print" but not "download" which is the typical
> > choice most students more frequently need to access their books. And
> > if you tab to actions how can you be sure you've selected the right file
> to act on?
> >
> > If you wanted to load one of the Daisy books in FS reader, that would
> > add additional challenges. You also have to be sure those PDFS don't
> > load up in the browser, so that's more configuration which may or may
> > not have happened on a particular student's computer.
> >
> > This whole cloud experience is both frustrating for me and my students
> > and what I most need is a clear, unambiguous set of steps I can give
> > them to access their files when I send them a sharepoint link like the
> one above.
> >
> > I hope the upcoming FS webinar will cover this. I have written Dan
> > Clark asking him to tackle this challenge. Comments from other
> > trainers are welcome and have fun exploring this sharepoint link with
> your screen reader!
> >
> > --Debee
> > (Deborah Armstrong, De Anza College Alternate Media.)
> >
> > *** Feel free to forward this to anyone. ****
> >
> >
> >
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