[Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

Fri Apr 14 14:53:28 UTC 2017

Hi Denise,
You are the first person I have seen say that 365 is "very" accessible. Do you have any resources you can share on that? Does your site include lessons on 365?

Thanks,
Greg

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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Accessing sharepoint links with JAWS

Deborah,

365 is very accessible with Jaws and as you pointed out it is a matter of knowing what commands to use in order for it to get it to do what you want.  I will try to do up a video to show you the steps to access this.
Thanks for sharing the exact link to what you are having difficulties with as I will use this as an example.

This will be an audio/visual file so anyone will be able to see the issues you describe. Give me some days to do it all.

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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM, Deborah Armstrong via Trainer-Talk < trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

>                 The recent newsletter sent out by Freedom Scientific 
> indicated near the end of next month, they'd offer a webinar on Office 
> 365, which I desperately need, as I do continue to struggle with it at work.
>
> I see it's not in their listing of upcoming webinars yet, but that's 
> probably because marketing got a little ahead of reality.
>
> One problem most of my BVI students really struggle with is accessing 
> the sharepoint links I send them. I produce alternate media for a 
> community college. The sad thing here is that my LD students don't 
> have any trouble with sharepoint links; it's the JAWS users who are 
> really struggling. Even I an experienced blind user of several screen 
> readers find the experience inconsistent.
>
> For example this link:
>                 https://foothilldeanza-my.sharepoint.com/personal/
> 10270840_fhda_edu/_layouts/15/guestaccess.aspx?folderid=
> 15189d7ac2cea4d0da2d7dc538175c828&authkey=ARxTCF4ObRJdv7qNGDkvX8Y
>
> is a typical guest access link to a folder for a single student with 
> all his textbooks. Some are in PDF, some in Word, some in Daisy, you 
> get the idea; it's whatever I've been able to collect for him.
>
> He needs to open the Daisy in FS reader, the PDF files in Adobe, and 
> the Word docs in Wordpad or Word, whatever he has on his home, lab  or 
> classroom PCs. He might be in Windows 7 8 or 10; he might be using 
> FireFox, IE Chrome, or even heaven forbid, Edge!
>
> Anyway, if you pull up this link  and try to navigate with JAWS it's
> fairly challenging. You are     sometimes in virtual cursor mode, sometimes
> in application mode. Normally you can right-click on a link to 
> download a file, but that too, doesn't work everywhere here. Sometimes 
> if you press Enter on a file it loads up in an inaccessible view in 
> something called "Word Online" which apparently is different than 
> Office 365. The terminology is confusing, SharePoint, One-Drive, 
> Office 365, Office online; someone should do a whole webinar unraveling all of it!
>
> The reason I don't use Google Drive, DropBox, SugarSync, or any of the 
> other file sharing services is that our college has standardized on 
> Sharepoint, and my LD students love it. Also at CSUN, Microsoft spent 
> so much effort talking about how accessible Office now is, so I keep 
> thinking I'm missing something.
>
> The files are in a 7-column grid, but most of its columns are not 
> relevant to someone simply trying to access those files. If you tab to 
> the actions menyu you sometimes find it, sometimes tab right in to the 
> tool bar or address bar. If you find the actions menu you get choices 
> like "share" and "print" but not "download" which is the typical 
> choice most students more frequently need to access their books. And 
> if you tab to actions how can you be sure you've selected the right file to act on?
>
> If you wanted to load one of the Daisy books in FS reader, that would 
> add additional challenges. You also have to be sure those PDFS don't 
> load up in the browser, so that's more configuration which may or may 
> not have happened on a particular student's computer.
>
> This whole cloud experience is both frustrating for me and my students 
> and what I most need is a clear, unambiguous set of steps I can give 
> them to access their files when I send them a sharepoint link like the one above.
>
> I hope the upcoming FS webinar will cover this. I have written Dan 
> Clark asking him to tackle this challenge. Comments from other 
> trainers are welcome and have fun exploring this sharepoint link with your screen reader!
>
> --Debee
> (Deborah Armstrong, De Anza College Alternate Media.)
>
> *** Feel free to forward this to anyone. ****
>
>
>
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