[Trainer-Talk] Free Email Clients that Work with Windows 10

Wed Sep 20 12:26:01 UTC 2017

Matthew,

Which version of JAWS is your student using? While I'm not able to veirfy this on the computer I am currently using, I remember hearing that Thunderbird recently went through a change which required a JAWS update to properly read the message list. If I'm correct about this, this has the unfortunate side effect of having earlier versions of JAWS not reading the message list.

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On 9/19/2017 8:01 PM, Matthew Dierckens via Trainer-Talk wrote:

Hi all,
Speaking of thunderbird, I am working with a student who I have switched them over to Thunderbird as their Outlook 2016 was giving us problems with Gmail.
They have JAWS and NVDA, and I was just wondering how to get JAWS to read the message list? All we get is, list view, and then silence. If arrowing, no feedback, but if enter is pressed, then it opens the message.
Thoughts? Thanks.

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On Sep 19, 2017, at 17:28, Andrews, David B (DEED) via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

I can't disagree with anything you have said.  I have spent a good bit of time with Thunderbird over the past two weeks.  It does work with JAWS, and NVDA, but I think NVDA does a better job.  JAWS was always notifying me they thought this message and that message was spam, and it was intrusive, because most were false positives. NVDA did less of this and it wasn't as obtrusive. However fairly regularly, it froze and I had to wait for a minute or two to get it to come back.  I may have set it wrong, but didn't see any spam filtering, and I tried messing with filters, and it was a pain at best. I finally got one set, I thought, but it didn't work, so who knows.

Monitoring all these lists, I need something that works quickly and smoothly.  I have been using Eudora, but am having problems with Windows 10 setup. May have to give it up, will probably go to Outlook in the long run.

Dave

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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Free Email Clients that Work with Windows 10

Hi All

Yes, it is possible to configure Thunderbird e-mail to work with Jaws and NVDA but I don't recommend it. It is no longer supported by Mozilla directly. It's codebase will ultimately change and so there is no way to guarantee its continued accessibility on Windows. I have already noticed some stability issues with very large inboxes.
https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/
Also, the calendar application, lightning, is not accessible as far as I can tell.

if your clients are going to live on Windows 10, I think it is prudent they learn the built-in solution, Mail for Windows 10, before they learn third party e-mail clients.

What are your thoughts?

Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
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JAWS released an update or was suppose to about two months back to fix some of those issues. Non the less I've often found that NVDA seems to do a better job with thunderbird. Although I think I have a student using JAWS 18 right now with Win 10.
-David

On 9/14/2017 4:58 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw via Trainer-Talk wrote:

Okay! I have downloaded Thunderbird. However, I am unable to see the
list of messages in my inbox. I mean, jaws does not read them as I
down arrow. Is there something that I'm missing? Thanks in advance for
your advice.

Sharonda

On 9/14/17, S A. Marositz via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Hi Sharonda and All

The built-in mail client for Windows 10 works rather well with Jaws,
NVDA and Narrator. When I run Windows 10 on my personal computer,
that's the client I use. I do not have much experience with the
calendar and contacts apps though. Here is the link to the
instructions with using Mail for Windows 10 with a screen reader and/or the keyboard.
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HTH

Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
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If you have Microsoft Office.  I am sure that Microsoft Outlook works
with Windows 10.

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Thus far I know of nothing other then Thunderbird

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Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Free Email Clients that Work with Windows 10

Hello all,
Are there any other free email clients, besides Thunderbird, that
work well with Windows 10 and JAWS. I didn't know of any. Thanks so much.

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