[Trainer-Talk] Free Email Clients that Work with Windows 10

Thu Sep 21 16:22:58 UTC 2017

Stephen,
I hear you, about thunderbird.  I know there trying to spin out the open
source as a seperate project likely another non-profit. Its a tough
call, the past 15 years or so shows that Microsoft's default mail client
dies and is reborn for almost every operating system version... As long
as the navigation and keyboard shortcuts remain somewhat similar, I
don't think it creates a huge learning curve every 4 to 5 years. Then
there's the philosophical argument Microsoft periodically treating a11y
users like pond-scum.  I don't know. I mean IMAP and POP ain't changing
anytime soon; an theoretically Thunderbird shouldn't need many
updates... I hope it survives, at least as a power user.  I'd say if it
there just a basic user, then Mail will probably work fine.

Anywho, great insights.
-David

On 9/19/2017 4:44 PM, S A. Marositz via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Hi All 
>
> Yes, it is possible to configure Thunderbird e-mail to work with Jaws and NVDA but I don't recommend it. It is no longer supported by Mozilla directly. It's codebase will ultimately change and so there is no way to guarantee its continued accessibility on Windows. I have already noticed some stability issues with very large inboxes.
> https://blog.mozilla.org/thunderbird/2017/05/thunderbirds-future-home/
> Also, the calendar application, lightning, is not accessible as far as I can tell.  
>
> if your clients are going to live on Windows 10, I think it is prudent they learn the built-in solution, Mail for Windows 10, before they learn third party e-mail clients. 
>
> What are your thoughts?
>
> Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
> Assistive Technology Specialist, Pasadena City College
> Phone: (626) 585-7242
>
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> JAWS released an update or was suppose to about two months back to fix some of those issues. Non the less I've often found that NVDA seems to do a better job with thunderbird. Although I think I have a student using JAWS 18 right now with Win 10.
> -David
>
>
> On 9/14/2017 4:58 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw via Trainer-Talk wrote:
>> Okay! I have downloaded Thunderbird. However, I am unable to see the 
>> list of messages in my inbox. I mean, jaws does not read them as I 
>> down arrow. Is there something that I'm missing? Thanks in advance for 
>> your advice.
>>
>> Sharonda
>>
>> On 9/14/17, S A. Marositz via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Sharonda and All
>>>
>>> The built-in mail client for Windows 10 works rather well with Jaws, 
>>> NVDA and Narrator. When I run Windows 10 on my personal computer, 
>>> that's the client I use. I do not have much experience with the 
>>> calendar and contacts apps though. Here is the link to the 
>>> instructions with using Mail for Windows 10 with a screen reader and/or the keyboard.
>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://support.office.com/en-u
>>> s/article/Get-help-for-using-a-screen-reader-with-Mail-for-Windows-10
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>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Stephen Alexander Marositz JD, CPACC
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>>> If you have Microsoft Office.  I am sure that Microsoft Outlook works 
>>> with Windows 10.
>>>
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>>> Thus far I know of nothing other then Thunderbird
>>>
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>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> Are there any other free email clients, besides Thunderbird, that 
>>> work well with Windows 10 and JAWS. I didn't know of any. Thanks so much.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sharonda White
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