[Trainer-Talk] Please recommendations

Nancy Coffman nancy.l.coffman at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 02:09:24 UTC 2018 

I think it is worth considering using laptop commands, and avoiding having to take your hands off the keyboard, as opposed to carrying something larger just to have the numeric keypad. All of the screen readers have a laptop command structure.

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> On Apr 28, 2018, at 10:46 AM, David Goldfield via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Nancy.
> 
> There was a time when I never would have imagined Microsoft selling products from other manufacturers. However, if you go to their Web site you'll see an online store where they offer a variety of third party products in a variety of form factors, such as desktops, laptops, etc.
> 
> David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
> On 4/26/2018 8:42 PM, Nancy Coffman via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the tip.  I didn't know Microsoft Stores sold anything not
> manufactured by Microsoft.
> 
> Nancy C.
> 
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> I also have an HP spectre and I love mine! Keyboard is great and it's also a
> 13 inch. If you can get one from a Microsoft store it won't come with as
> much junk!
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:47:37 PM
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> Cc: Nancy Coffman
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Please recommendations
> 
> I have an HP specter at work. It is a 13.6 inch. I have to use laptop
> commands on it, which is no problem. I like it. It is lightweight, not much
> bigger than an iPad, and works very well. Although the keyboard is flat, it
> is small enough to be easy to use. My only adaptation would be putting some
> Loctite on it for, F and I have an HP specter at work. It is a 13.6 inch. I
> have to use laptop commands on it, which is no problem. I like it. Is
> lightweight, not much bigger than an iPad, and works very well. Although the
> keyboard is flat, it is small enough to be easy to use. My only adaptation
> would be putting some lock dots on air for, F 7-12.
> 
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> On Apr 25, 2018, at 7:26 PM, Brad Hodges via Trainer-Talk
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> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> 
> Greetings:
> 
> 
> OK, now I understand you need the computer, not just a keyboard. I
> would suggest using a mid range laptop. If your student isn't using
> the screen, then a 14 inch might work nicely. I would also suggest
> using a standard keyboard, see my earlier message. I think that
> tablets are going to lack the power you need for the applications and
> tasks you mentioned.
> 
> 
> I just looked at current models, hoping to replace my own machine, and
> found that they are much more alike than different. There are a number
> of sources which rate and describe Windows machines. Tech Hive and PC
> Mag come to mind. Again if you're near a Micro Center store, they can
> provide excellent sales help. I'm sure that other outlets in your area
> can as well, ask around..
> 
> 
> Since you're going to be using Jaws and braille technology make sure
> you have a good relationship with your vendor of that technology. If
> you don't like your vendor, or if they do not provide good support,
> make a change.
> 
> 
> If Chromebooks are used in the class room, remember that they have
> modest accessibility using the included ChromeVox screen reader. Press
> Control plus Alt plus Z to activate it.
> 
> Others may have other ideas...
> 
> 
> Brad
> 
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> On 4/25/2018 8:09 PM, Jordana Engebretsen via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Thanks,
> I am looking for a small in size and no heavy at all computer.  Maybe the
> 
> 
> size of an iPad!  Thanks for the suggestions!
> 
> 
> Jordana
> 
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> Brad Hodges via Trainer-Talk
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> Cc: Brad Hodges <Brad.hodges at outlook.com><mailto:Brad.hodges at outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Please recommendations
> 
> Jordana::
> 
> 
> I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to when you say that you want
> 
> 
> the keyboard to be "powerful" enough. If you mean you're looking for a
> desktop-style Windows keyboard which is a bit smaller than usual, to
> accommodate small hands, I would suggest you check out local outlets such as
> Office Depot, Best Buy, and if you have one definitely Micro Center. Fore
> some of us the choice of a keyboard is a highly personal thing and requires
> much trial among differing models. Others simply use what ever is at hand
> and are good to go.
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> 
> So glad this youngster is learning braille, you are equipping him or her
> 
> 
> to be successful, and thanks.
> 
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> 
> Brad
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> On 4/25/2018 6:16 PM, Jordana Engebretsen via Trainer-Talk wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a very intelligent elementary student.  The student is learning
> 
> 
> really fast (Braille, JAWS, and more).  We need recommendations for a small
> computer keyboard, small in size but powerful!  We will get JAWS 2018,
> Windows 10 with the package of apps (Word, Excel, Outlook etc.)  Do you know
> of any place that will sell it?
> 
> 
> Thanks for any recommendation,
> Jordana
> 
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