[Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (

Thu Sep 6 17:07:47 UTC 2018

Man, what reading a manual can do.
The control key should repeat the last audio prompt.

Thom

On 9/6/18, Thom Spittle <thom3of5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried out the demo for typio and really liked it. The only thing I
> was having trouble with was when I needed to have the voice repeat
> what it just said. There were a few instances when it tried to read a
> series of letters as a word. That was imposibe for me to figure out. I
> had to keep hitting the letters until it worked. Killed my accuracy
> though. smiles.
> All in all, very nice experience.
> It used the onboard Microsoft voices of windows 10, which is fine.
>
>
> Thom
> .
>
> On 9/6/18, Zhi Huang via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> Agree with the adult and child modes.  I believe perhaps a comment or 2
>> might be different, but not much of a difference.  As for the comment
>> about
>> TypeAbility getting the student used to eloquence, that depends on if the
>> student plans on using eloquence.  I had students who want to take
>> advantage
>> of other voices like Samantha or Tom, but the problem is when using
>> TypeAbility, they are forced to use Eloquence.
>> Personally, I think all 3, Talking Typer, Talking Typing Teacher, and
>> TypeAbility, have their plusses and minuses.  It depends on what the
>> specific student wants.  There are some who will like one but other will
>> dislike that same one.
>> As for the students who feel the voices are not clear enough in Talking
>> Typer, it is possible to purchase additional voices for SAPI5 using
>> Eloquence, or Vocalizer, depending on the student's preferences.
>>
>> Zhi Huang
>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Scott
>> Davert via Trainer-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 7:41 AM
>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Scott Davert <kc8pnl at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
>>
>> Good morning all.
>> I agree with Thom, the adult versus child mode really doesn't seem to be
>> much different. Talking typer is decent for some people, at least it's
>> not
>> patronizing. Steve: can you tell us a bit more about Typio? I'm not
>> familiar
>> with that one.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Scott
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk
>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with you, Amy. What else is weird is that there is a setting
>>> that lets you choose child or adult student. I don't see a difference
>>> with the program no matter what setting is chosen.
>>> Thom
>>>
>>> On 9/6/18, Guerra Access Technology LLC | Stephen Guerra via
>>> Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I will chime in here and say that Typio is a product that is worth
>>>> looking at.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Respectfully,
>>>> Stephen Guerra, President
>>>> Guerra Access Technology Training LLC Blind, Low-Vision and
>>>> Deaf-Blind Authorized State of Minnesota Vendor for Technology
>>>> Training
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>>>> Mason, Amy via Trainer-Talk
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>>>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to double check, these are the only three anyone knows
>>>> about correct? I'm asking because I am more than a bit put out that
>>>> all of them are quite patronizing to the students, at least I feel
>>>> like Typeability and the Marvel soft options are.  I only had one
>>>> student the summer I was working with high schoolers who didn't hate
>>>> me for sitting them down to work on typing. It was not because of the
>>>> typing itself, but the obnoxious nature of the program.  That
>>>> particular student had an especially acerbic sense of humor, so and
>>>> enjoyed making fun of the software. I don't want to have to train
>>>> people with tools that would make kindergartners cringe.
>>>>
>>>> I can't speak to the Talking Typer, I've not worked with it, though
>>>> the difficulty people have in understanding it seems to be  a pretty
>>>> big problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Amy Mason
>>>> (410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424
>>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   1. accessible typing programs (Brett Boyer)
>>>>   2. Re: accessible typing programs (Marianne Denning)
>>>>   3. Re: accessible typing programs (Greg Aikens)
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>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 18:11:10 -0600
>>>> From: "Brett Boyer" <bboyer202 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'"
>>>>    <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs
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>>>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I was
>>>> wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at their
>>>> facilities.
>>>>
>>>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>>>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>>>> hear some thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 22:01:47 -0400
>>>> From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>>>> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
>>>>    <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs
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>>>> If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
>>>> is Talking Typing Teacher.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Brett Boyer via Trainer-Talk <
>>>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
>>>>> was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
>>>>> their facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>>>>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>>>>> hear some thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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>>>> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 11:56:06 +0000
>>>> From: Greg Aikens <gaikens at cviga.org>
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>>>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs
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>>>> I would second the TypeAbility suggestion. I know it requires JAWS
>>>> but we switched to it from Talking Typing Teacher and have seen much
>>>> better results. The lessons are far smaller and easier to repeat for
>> fluency.
>>>> There
>>>> are also lessons that teach/reinforce basic text navigation and other
>>>> important screen reader skills. I use it to preteach those skills
>>>> before clients begin formal instruction using a computer.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Aikens
>>>> Senior Assistive Technology Instructor Center for the Visually
>>>> Impaired
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>>>> Atlanta, GA 30308
>>>> 404-602-4285
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Marianne Denning via Trainer-Talk
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 10:02 PM
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>>>> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs
>>>>
>>>> If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
>>>> is Talking Typing Teacher.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Brett Boyer via Trainer-Talk <
>>>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
>>>>> was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
>>>>> their facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
>>>>> aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
>>>>> hear some thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
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