[Trainer-Talk] accessible typing programs (

David Goldfield david.goldfield at outlook.com
Mon Sep 10 01:48:38 UTC 2018 

Regarding the discussion of Talking Typing Teacher from Marvelsoft, bear in mind that it's been a couple of years since I've had an opportunity to use it. When I last worked with it I remember that it contained three sets of lessons: one for very small kids, one for middle to high school students and one for adults. I actually found differences between the three levels of lessons, with the lessons for very young kids a bit sillier than the second set, with the adult modules essentially being the same without the two narrators sounding quite so juvenile. I personally find the program to be excellent and brilliantly designed but my experience when requiring phone support was less than stellar. While I would not say the person I spoke to was rude I would say he was close to being so and was totally unsympathetic to my situation, which had to do with the software license.

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On 9/6/2018 1:07 PM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk wrote:

Man, what reading a manual can do.
The control key should repeat the last audio prompt.

Thom


On 9/6/18, Thom Spittle <thom3of5 at gmail.com><mailto:thom3of5 at gmail.com> wrote:


I tried out the demo for typio and really liked it. The only thing I
was having trouble with was when I needed to have the voice repeat
what it just said. There were a few instances when it tried to read a
series of letters as a word. That was imposibe for me to figure out. I
had to keep hitting the letters until it worked. Killed my accuracy
though. smiles.
All in all, very nice experience.
It used the onboard Microsoft voices of windows 10, which is fine.


Thom
.

On 9/6/18, Zhi Huang via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org><mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:


Hi Everyone:

Agree with the adult and child modes.  I believe perhaps a comment or 2
might be different, but not much of a difference.  As for the comment
about
TypeAbility getting the student used to eloquence, that depends on if the
student plans on using eloquence.  I had students who want to take
advantage
of other voices like Samantha or Tom, but the problem is when using
TypeAbility, they are forced to use Eloquence.
Personally, I think all 3, Talking Typer, Talking Typing Teacher, and
TypeAbility, have their plusses and minuses.  It depends on what the
specific student wants.  There are some who will like one but other will
dislike that same one.
As for the students who feel the voices are not clear enough in Talking
Typer, it is possible to purchase additional voices for SAPI5 using
Eloquence, or Vocalizer, depending on the student's preferences.

Zhi Huang
Assistive Technology Specialist

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Good morning all.
I agree with Thom, the adult versus child mode really doesn't seem to be
much different. Talking typer is decent for some people, at least it's
not
patronizing. Steve: can you tell us a bit more about Typio? I'm not
familiar
with that one.

Regards,
Scott

Sent from my iPhone



On Sep 6, 2018, at 9:02 AM, Thom Spittle via Trainer-Talk


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I agree with you, Amy. What else is weird is that there is a setting
that lets you choose child or adult student. I don't see a difference
with the program no matter what setting is chosen.
Thom

On 9/6/18, Guerra Access Technology LLC | Stephen Guerra via
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I will chime in here and say that Typio is a product that is worth
looking at.


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I just wanted to double check, these are the only three anyone knows
about correct? I'm asking because I am more than a bit put out that
all of them are quite patronizing to the students, at least I feel
like Typeability and the Marvel soft options are.  I only had one
student the summer I was working with high schoolers who didn't hate
me for sitting them down to work on typing. It was not because of the
typing itself, but the obnoxious nature of the program.  That
particular student had an especially acerbic sense of humor, so and
enjoyed making fun of the software. I don't want to have to train
people with tools that would make kindergartners cringe.

I can't speak to the Talking Typer, I've not worked with it, though
the difficulty people have in understanding it seems to be  a pretty
big problem.


Thanks

Amy Mason
(410) 659-9314 Ext. 2424
National Federation of the Blind


  1. accessible typing programs (Brett Boyer)
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Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I was
wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at their
facilities.

I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
hear some thoughts.









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If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
is Talking Typing Teacher.

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Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
their facilities.

I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
hear some thoughts.







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I would second the TypeAbility suggestion. I know it requires JAWS
but we switched to it from Talking Typing Teacher and have seen much
better results. The lessons are far smaller and easier to repeat for


fluency.


There
are also lessons that teach/reinforce basic text navigation and other
important screen reader skills. I use it to preteach those skills
before clients begin formal instruction using a computer.

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If you are using JAWS you can use Typability. Another program I like
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Hi everyone. We are currently using Talking Typer at my job and I
was wondering what other folks are using to teach touch-typing at
their facilities.

I've been getting a lot of complaints from students that the voices
aren't clear enough when reciting words to type. Would be curious to
hear some thoughts.







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