[Trainer-Talk] Teaching Gmail

Greg Aikens gaikens at cviga.org
Tue Apr 23 17:55:04 UTC 2019


Hi Marianne,
That's a good idea. I'll check her site. 

When you teach standard view, are you using the Gmail keyboard shortcuts or just normal screen reader navigation? 

Thanks for your response.


Greg Aikens
Senior Assistive Technology Instructor 
Center for the Visually Impaired
739 West Peachtree Street NW
Atlanta, GA 30308
404-602-4285



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I teach students to use standard view. I don't have any handouts because my
students don't use them. I, personally, still use basic view when I need to
go into my contacts. I have not found an easy way to get into the contacts
and go through them in standard view. Have you checked to see if Dr. Denise
Robinson with Your Tech Vision has any videos on using Gmail in standard
view?

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:23 PM Greg Aikens via Trainer-Talk <
trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
> For those of you teaching clients to use Gmail, I would be curious to hear
> what approach you are using. Are you still teaching clients to use Basic
> html, are you teaching them to use Standard view with the standard html
> navigation commands from the screen reader, or are you using Standard view
> with keyboard shortcuts enabled?
>
> I teach Gmail fairly early in the course after basic web navigation has
> been covered. I tried Standard view with keyboard shortcuts enabled but
> found that most of my clients struggled with this approach, especially as
> new screen reader users, turning the virtual PC cursor on and off added a
> layer of complexity most were not ready for yet.
>
> I switched to basic html because of how predictable navigation is and how
> it reinforces html navigation concepts. However, that interface has gotten
> so old that so many of the new and convenient features are not available.
> Recently, I checked out the new Gmail Standard view and found that it is
> far more predictable to navigate with standard html navigation keystrokes
> than I ever remembered.
>
> I have been pretty happy with this approach for the last few months and am
> now in search of resources to support my clients, such as handouts, blog
> posts, etc. where they can do further reading outside of class. . Before I
> start creating resources, I wanted to see if anyone could recommend some
> that explain/describe navigating standard view using region/landmarks,
> headings, form fields, etc.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts/resources you can share. I would love to hear how
> you guys are teaching these concepts.
>
> Best,
> Greg
>
>
> Greg Aikens
> Senior Assistive Technology Instructor
> Center for the Visually Impaired<http://www.cviga.org/>
> 739 West Peachtree Street NW
> Atlanta, GA 30308
> 404-602-4285
>
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