[Trainer-Talk] Windows Mail

Sat Dec 28 17:26:52 UTC 2019

Google’s “less secure apps” requirement is a real pain to deal with.
Using Outlook for a no-cost email provider is a good choice.  At least you won't be dealing with a provider who bases their business off monetizing your personal information and internet activity.

- Brad -

On Dec 28, 2019, at 10:54, Nancy Coffman via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

I have had instances when enabling less secure apps didn't let me into gmail with Windows Mail. If a client doesn't have an email address, I encourage them to use Outlook. It works more seamlessly with more platforms. It is also a Microsoft account so when they get office, they don't have to get another microsoft account.

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> On Dec 28, 2019, at 9:21 AM, Reginald George via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Christine I appreciate the information here and that you want to help. However the situation with Gmail and Outlook is complicated and ridiculous and there’s a couple things I feel I need to point out so don’t take it personally.  I am afraid that these instructions are way out of date. It doesn’t deal with the issue of enabling less secure access on Gmail before outlook will even work with the website. or dealing with two factor authentication which is almost mandatory, or people need to be told not to enable it if they’re only going to be using outlook. once two factor authentication is enabled on an account you cannot turn it off and you have to get a special random number password for specific applications on a given device.  and even that is no guarantee that it’s going to continue to work.  Or the fact that if you travel with your computer and try to sign in from a different area Gmail will probably lock you out and you have to go back through the website to login before you can get your email. And that will  occasionally and arbitrarily turn off less secure access even though you’ve explicitly enabled it in the account security settings.
> 
> Reg
> Life is what happens to you when you’re busy making other plans. Alan Saunders, John Lennon 
> Sent from my self driving starship!  
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Christine Chaikin of Insightful Publications via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
> 
> You can also use Microsoft Outlook to send and receive gmail as well.
> 
> Below are the steps.
> 
> Setting up Gmail in Outlook
> 
> If you use Outlook to check and manage your email, you can easily use it to
> check your Gmail account as well. 
> 
> You can set up your Gmail account to allow you to synchronize email across
> multiple machines using email clients instead of a browser.
> 
> RELATED: Email Basics: POP3 is Outdated; Please Switch to IMAP Today
> We will show you how to use IMAP in your Gmail account so you can
> synchronize your Gmail account across multiple machines, and then how to add
> your Gmail account to Outlook 2010, 2013, or 2016.
> 
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> Set Up Your Gmail Account to Use IMAP
> 
> To setup your Gmail account to use IMAP, sign in to your Gmail account and
> go to Mail.
> 
> Click the Settings button in the upper, right corner of the window and
> select Settings from the drop-down menu.
> 
> On the Settings screen, click Forwarding and POP/IMAP.
> 
> Scroll down to the IMAP Access section and select Enable IMAP.
> Add Your Gmail Account to Outlook
> Close your browser and open Outlook. To begin adding your Gmail account,
> click the File tab.
> 
> On the Account Information screen, click Add Account.
> 
> On the Add Account dialog box, you can choose the E-mail Account option
> which automatically sets up your Gmail account in Outlook. To do this, enter
> your name, email address, and the password for your Gmail account twice.
> Click Next. (If you are using two-factor authentication, you'll need to get
> an "app password" from this page.)
> 
> The progress of the setup displays. The automatic process may or may not
> work.
> 
> If the automatic process fails, select Manual setup or additional server
> types, instead of E-mail Account, and click Next.
> 
> On the Choose Service screen, select POP or IMAP and click Next.
> 
> On the POP and IMAP Account Settings enter the User, Server, and Logon
> Information. For the Server Information, select IMAP from the Account Type
> drop-down list and enter the following for the incoming and outgoing server
> information:
> .    Incoming mail server: imap.googlemail.com
> .    Outgoing mail server (SMTP): smtp.googlemail.com
> Make sure you enter your full email address for the User Name and select
> Remember password if you want Outlook to automatically log you in when
> checking email. Click More Settings.
> 
> On the Internet E-mail Settings dialog box, click the Outgoing Server tab.
> Select the My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication and make sure
> the Use same settings as my incoming mail server option is selected.
> 
> While still in the Internet E-mail Settings dialog box, click the Advanced
> tab. Enter the following information:
> .    Incoming server: 993
> .    Incoming server encrypted connection: SSL
> .    Outgoing server encrypted connection TLS
> .    Outgoing server: 587
> NOTE: You need to select the type of encrypted connection for the outgoing
> server before entering 587 for the Outgoing server (SMTP) port number. If
> you enter the port number first, the port number will revert back to port 25
> when you change the type of encrypted connection.
> Click OK to accept your changes and close the Internet E-mail Settings
> dialog box.
> 
> Click Next.
> 
> Outlook tests the accounts settings by logging into the incoming mail server
> and sending a test email message. When the test is finished, click Close.
> 
> You should see a screen saying "You're all set!". Click Finish.
> 
> Your Gmail address displays in the account list on the left with any other
> email addresses you have added to Outlook. Click the Inbox to see what's in
> your Inbox in your Gmail account.
> 
> Because you're using IMAP in your Gmail account and you used IMAP to add the
> account to Outlook, the messages and folders in Outlook reflect what's in
> your Gmail account. Any changes you make to folders and any time you move
> email messages among folders in Outlook, the same changes are made in your
> Gmail account, as you will see when you log into your Gmail account in a
> browser. This works the other way as well. Any changes you make to the
> structure of your account (folders, etc.) in a browser will be reflected the
> next time you log into your Gmail account in Outlook.
> 
> I hope that the information helps listed above.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk [mailto:trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Nancy Coffman via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 3:50 PM
> To: 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology'
> Cc: nancy.l.coffman at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Windows Mail
> 
> I have had users get email using the Windows 10 mail app. It works fine once
> it is hooked up. I have occasionally had difficulty getting gmail to work
> with the app. It seems that most of our clients are using gmail so that can
> be a hassle.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Greg
> Aikens via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 1:40 PM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology
> <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Greg Aikens <gaikens at cviga.org>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Windows Mail
> 
> Hi all,
> Are any of you using Windows Mail to teach email? I'd love to hear the good,
> the bad, and the ugly.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give.
> 
> Greg Aikens
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