[Trainer-Talk] Important: Ideas and Presentation Pitches for our 2021 Division Meeting

Mon Jun 28 19:55:09 UTC 2021

I agree with Nimer concerning web apps. I suppose I could present about the various braille display options on the market if there is a large amount of interest. that said, last year I was not able to make this division's meeting due to a scheduling conflict. I hate to commit to things without an agenda, which makes it hard to know when I can be where.

Scott

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 00:12, Humberto Avila via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello there, 
> 
> I also agree with Nimer, in that, people often teach desktop apps, such as Word, Excel, Outlook, ETC. I think that this stems from the idea that students / clients of a given agency would go onto a vocational / job market track in which desktop apps may be used. I recently graduated from a blindness training center and, while I was not a student at the computer classes, I feel the AT and computer training curriculum emphasizes desktop apps well over other apps. But that's just my opinion. But I've also interviewed for a trainer position recently at a nonprofit, and they specifically and explicitly say their AT instructors ought to train with Ms Office apps. Based on what I've experienced so far, it might as well be talking about desktop apps. So, yes, I would agree that web apps should be taught as well. I hope this discussion makes it into our conference this year. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
> Humberto  
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Nimer Jaber via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd like to see more emphasis put on teaching web apps. It seems that there
>> is not much effort going into teaching web apps, and many trainers still
>> stand by, and teach desktop apps.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 2:02 PM Dean Martineau via Trainer-Talk <
>>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm interested in nuts-and-bolts stuff, how to provide remote training,
>>> teaching iOS, Android and windows, so that everybody hears what needs to be
>>> heard.  Remote options besides Tandem. This sort of thing taught by people
>>> presumably much wiser and with more experience.
>>> 
>>> Thought-provoking reading: http://bahaiteachings.org
>>> 
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>>> Cc: Humberto Avila <humberto_avila.it104 at outlook.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Important: Ideas and Presentation Pitches for
>>> our 2021 Division Meeting
>>> 
>>> Hello, Andy and All,
>>> 
>>> I am not so much new to this list, however, I am new the access technology
>>> trainers division of the NFB, of which I would like to be a part of very
>>> much. I would be very interested in attending your sessions, and would very
>>> much like to suggest some topics of discussion.
>>> 
>>> I am passionate about accessibility, technology and working with Blind
>>> folks to access their world through the technology and am currently seeking
>>> an employment opportunity in such a role. I would like to suggest maybe,
>>> talking about certifications, credentialing and other steps to get on this
>>> pathway of training in the use of AT in rehabilitation and other settings.
>>> I understand there is the CATIS (certified Access Technology Instructional
>>> Specialist for the Blind) but would like to know if folks are actually
>>> getting value out of it, and whether employers are seeking credentials such
>>> as these, and different paths / education needed to do so. Might also be
>>> interested in where the field of VI AT will be going next and whether there
>>> is truly a demand for it in both the government and private sector world.
>>> 
>>> The next topic I would like to suggest is more of a research thing, given
>>> the NFB is also interested in research, and the NFB convention is,
>>> basically considered a conference, for consumers. But what is the effect of
>>> computer / screen time among individuals with blindness? I (and probably
>>> most of us) have heard about the possibly harmful effects of too much
>>> screen time on sighted people's eyes, and posture; how social networking,
>>> being on smartphones and other technologies are making people far less
>>> connected with real, in-person interactions; and the psychological effects
>>> of zoom fatigue on sighted people, when we were all locked down and all of
>>> our work and personal social lives switched to Zoom. I would be curious if
>>> we as blind people have similar dilemmas regarding technology, or
>>> equivalents. Like, for instance: can being on the PC / phone all the time,
>>> and listening to a screen reader make us more or less, well... something?
>>> Smart? Dumb? Focused or unfocused? How does the attention span of someone
>>> who, say, reads Braille full time, and uses a Braille display for work and
>>> bookreading compare with that of someone who reads no Braille, and only
>>> relies 100% of the time on ETI Eloquence TTS or Microsoft Sam? Well, for
>>> those who used to long use Windows XP, you might remember who that is, and
>>> how it sounds, with that earlier version of Narrator, NVDA or JAWS. Believe
>>> me, I've been there. :)  But anyways, does being on Zoom offer more
>>> benefits or drawbacks to a blind person using a screen reader and how is
>>> the greater impact? What is the impact of someone with low vision using
>>> something like Zoomtext or Fusion and Zoom fatigue?
>>> 
>>> At any rate, I hope I may have sparked some light in someone, perhaps
>>> amongst the NFB AT trainers division leadership. And even if the NFB isn't
>>> able to tackle these questions during this, next or another convention 10
>>> years from now, I think these questions do deserve some merit, because we
>>> live in a world that is constantly changing and not sometimes for the
>>> better.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading, and have an awesome day.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Humberto
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 27, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Andy Smith via Trainer-Talk <
>>> trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey, is there a list of topics that people are interested in?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/27/21, Chancey Fleet via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> As our 2021 division meeting approaches, we welcome your input and
>>>>> participation!
>>>>> Please write to me directly if you are interested in presenting on a
>>>>> particular topic of interest this year, or if you have a topic you'd
>>>>> like us to try to cover.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Chancey Fleet
>>>>> President, NFB  Assistive Tech Trainers' Division
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