[Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Wed Jul 12 16:19:04 UTC 2023

Jim, as I said in an earlier message, I remember reading about a setting that can cause problems.

I delved into phone,

Go to settings / accessibility / VoiceOver / VoiceOver recognition / screen recognition. Make sure it is off.

Dave

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From: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 10:55 AM
To: Andrews, David B (DEED) <david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>; 'List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology' <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>; 'Jack Mitchell' <Jack at indigo-logix.com>
Subject: RE: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Oh yeah? OK. So, this isn't a new thing then.

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From: Andrews, David B (DEED) <david.b.andrews at state.mn.us>
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Subject: RE: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

I have had the not ring calls thing happen, on and off for several years.

Dave

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Subject: RE: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Well, there is one other thing that I've been told about now.
For some weird reason, sometimes, calls I receive don't register. Several times during convention, and again yesterday, people have told me that they tried calling me but that it went to voicemail. Most of the time, I don't even hear the phone ring, and the actual call doesn't register.
Now yesterday, I did hear someone try calling me but when I tried answering, it was as though nobody was calling. Very strange stuff going on.

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Subject: RE: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

I have one other thought. There is a setting, in VoiceOver I think that allows it to try and identify unlabeled stuff on the screen. This could be turned on, I believe when it is on and doesn't need to be it can interfere with normal reading.

Sorry I don't remember what it is called.

Dave

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Hi Jack,

Yes, I do have a screen protector, but I've never had trouble with it. This started happening a few weeks ago.

Yes, it does work fine without Voiceover.

From: Jack Mitchell <Jack at indigo-logix.com>
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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Do you have a screen protector on your phone? If so and particularly if it has cracked, that can cause weird things to happen. Does the phone behave normally when VoiceOver is off and a sighted user is working with it?

On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 12:51 PM Jim Portillo via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org <mailto:trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> > wrote:

Thanks Mario,
It's just weird, because I've been using the same synthesizer for a long time, and this just started happening a few weeks ago. Sigh.

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Subject: RE: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Hi Jim,
Yes, it's a bug that happens with certain speech synthesizers. I like to use the male Siri voice 1, but that same behavior kept happening. So, Someone suggested to use another speech synthesizer like Evan. I don't know which one you are using, but I think even Alex has that bug. So, you might need to try different synthesizers to see which one works. I think Ava works ok, too.

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Subject: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone not responding well to my touch gestures

Good morning,

For a few weeks now, I have been dealing with a very annoying issue on my phone. When I do something like swipe or other Voiceover gestures with my finger, things start out OK, but after a few instances, there is a sort of jump or crash that takes me one layer back or to the very top of where I started, and I need to start over again. It is annoying when I'm looking at something like a website or Social Media and then the jump happens.

Also, when I input text using Braille mode, I won't get more than two sentences into what I'm writing, and then it jumps and changes modes, making me need to go back to the rotar and go back to Braille mode.

I don't think that speed has much to do with what's going on, but I've tried slowing down, which doesn't always work for me. I just know that something's got to give because this continuous jumping around or going back a page or layer doesn't make me productive at all!

Has this happened to anyone else? What might be happening here, and what can I try to fix it? I've not seen this behavior until a few weeks ago.

Jim

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