[Trainer-Talk] iPhone with no home button

[Will Walsh]

Hi Raul,

As a rule of thumb I always start people off with the stock gesture and if it proves to be challenging we modify it. The reason why I go for the two finger swipe left and right is because I find that the defaults for those aren’t typically used as often as scrolling or reading. I personally never would use them at all. Two or three finger swipe ups get a little risky as those deal with reading and scrolling the screen. On android, the default scrolling gestures can not be modified and I personally feel that Apple should adopt a similar approach on iOS.

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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone with no home button

Hello. I always recommend trying the natural gestures as they were designed so that you don't change things right off the bat, giving you a fair chance at trying the regular way to activate something. However, that being said, if the regular swipe up gesture with one finger from the bottom of the screen is not possible due to a physical limitation or something else that is proving to be challenging, then you can certainly modify the gestures to make things easier. I believe that will suggested changing the gesture to a two-finger swipe left or swipe, right? And that might do it. While this is a good approach, my suggestion would be to maybe do a two-finger or three finger swipe up so that the gesture is very similar to the original one with one finger swipe up. However, there is no absolute right or wrong solution to modifying gestures. After all, that's why the modification of gestures exists.

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Nov 18, 2024 6:19:42 AM Kelsey Nicolay via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>:

> Hello,
> I have an iPhone Se 2022 now that is still functioning well for my n€eds ′I did have an issue with it not registering my dots when using BSI and the fingerprint reader not working consistent£y, but I took it to App£e and they were able to figaure out that it was a softwar€ update that needed inst at lled and to switch to a different case′, but my dad at least wants me to look into getting one of the Pro models for the AI features they offer. Theproblem is I've tried several times to master the gesture to go home and use the app switcher, but I struggle greatly with it; I can't s€em to swipe straight up, so the phone registers it as an exp£ore by touch. ′I have gotten it to will a couple times, but not consistent£y′. i have therefore concluded that the best option is going to be for me to either stick with what i have or if i do upgrade ′my dad says verizon has crazy deals on them rather now′ is to bypass Face ID and us€ back tap for the gesture which I am told you can pretty much do in all context$ where the home gesture is required. I have had several blind friends say that this approach is taking the easy way out and not learning the real operation of the phone, but my philosophy is that if there so a different approach that ws better for an individual, that person should use atever approach so going o allow them o independently accomplish the technology task that hand. what are your thoughts on this? have you have students o imp£y cannot perform the go home gesture for whatever ,son and have successfully used  phone with ack ap for the home and pp switcher as well as using the old gestures for control Center and Notification Center rather do you insist that students master the andard esture and what techniques  you δ that have elped those o struggle   to ake it easier for them?
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