[Trainer-Talk] iPhone with no home button

[Javier Diaz]

Yes, I also use my finger on their hand to teach gestures, especially to emphasize how small and light of a move the gestures are. Aside from the going home issues, I’ve also have moved away from saying swipe, I always introduce it that way, but describe it as a flick as in when we’re swiping left or right and for Home I tell them to push up the screen and that seems to register a bit more.

Interesting enough, as I was reading your messages and trying out some of the method syou all use for myself to see if I think it might work with our clients, I realized that you no longer have to position your finger from the middle of the screen for the Home gesture. I am able to do it from any point from edge to edge or corner to corner that is along the bottom edge. I am using an iPhone 12 Pro Max running 17.6.1. . That is also the case for the notification center and control center, which at this point I don’t even remember if we had to do it from the middle or not, but you can pull it down from any point across the top edge.

Best,

Javier

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Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone with no home button

Yeah Apple does the same thing when you go into the store for training with one of their accessibility specialists. I've found that the iPad is much more forgiving with this gesture than the phone; if you don't get it exactly right, the iPad will still recognize it whas the phone's margin of error is pretty narrow.
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> On Nov 23, 2024, at 11:22 PM, Shannon Cook via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> If the student permits me,
> I will demonstrate the gesture on the back of their hand so they can feel
> how I execute the gesture. They usually get a better understanding of what
> to do.
>
> Shannon Cook
> The greatest investment you can make in this world is kindness.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Brian
> Vogel via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:01 PM
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> Cc: Brian Vogel <britechguy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] iPhone with no home button
>
> Brett Boyer wrote, in part: "I tried to explain it as if there was a button
> at the bottom that you have to press and slide it up at the same time."
>
> Interesting.  And that's an excellent way of putting it.  I was just
> teaching the virtual home button on an iPad with VoiceOver yesterday, and I
> came to say that the first tone that you hear is the virtual home button
> capture tone and that when you know you've captured it, you continue moving
> upward, briskly, until you hear the next tone in sequence that you want.
>
> On this iPad the first tone after the capture tone, which was at a slightly
> higher pitch, was the "go to your homepage" tone, and if you continued
> sliding up without having paused or lifted your finger, and heard the next
> higher pitched tone, that's the "open app switcher" tone.
>
> This client tried, mightily, to get me to tell here that there was some way
> to avoid learning the virtual home button (she has an iPhone SE, so she's
> used to the hard home button it sports) and I told her, kindly but in no
> uncertain terms, that using it is a fundamental skill.  The funny thing is
> that she was doing well, very well, with controlling it after she understood
> the capture tone and that you don't stop swiping or pause the swipe until
> and unless you hear "the next tone up" or "the one after that"
> depending on whether you want to go to your home screen or open the app
> switcher.  I try to teach my students that it's not a bad thing not to
> achieve mastery in mere seconds.  It's akin to riding a bike.  It takes time
> to get the cadences (whether tapping, swiping, flicking, etc.) down but once
> you have them, you can't un-have them just like once you can balance a
> bicycle you can't ever get on one and have the kind of complete instability
> you had before you finally "got the trick."
>
> Brian
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