[Trainer-Talk] Navigating the Rotor by Form Controls

[Scott Davert]

Hi Showe.
How frustrating! A couple of things to try, and these may not help.
First, I'm not able to replicate this behavior on iOS 26. I wonder, though, if Full Keyboard Access is enabled? If so, this feature does not work well with VoiceOver and can produce unpredictable behavior. It sometimes gets toggled on when upgrading, I had this happen most recently with a 26.5 upgrade to 26.6. To see if this feature is enabled, head to Settings, Accessibility, Keybods and Typing, and then find the setting under the hardware keyboard heading. What makes me think it's worth looking into is that you said your client is using a keyboard. It's also possible VoiceOver's Screen Recognition feature may be enabled. The last resort is a VoiceOver Reset, which you can check out by going to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver and then going to the bottom of the screen. Question: do you know if the client can turn on Single Letter QuickNav and jump through the edit fields that way?

Good luck,
Scott

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On Sep 25, 2026, at 12:59, Curtis Chong via Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

Hi Showe:

Check your settings in VoiceOver > Rotor. Change Rotor with Item should be turned on. Use Edit Rotor in Text Fields is, on my phone, turned on.

Unfortunately, I am thinking you have to do all of this with your student remotely.

Cordially,

Curtis Chong


-----Original Message-----
From: Showe Trela <myshowe86 at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2026 10:30 AM
To: Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com>
Cc: trainer-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Trainer-Talk] Navigating the Rotor by Form Controls

Hi Curtis.
I will try my best to explain the situation. I am trying to teach an individual how to navigate the rotor to navigate by form controls. They had a bunch of items on their rotor but was not finding forms. Form Controls is selected in their rotor but it just won't populate when they are on a page with form fields. I have an HTML page that I created that has different fields on it. When I emailed the htm attachment to them, they can see and read the forms when they swipe right but they couldn't use the rotor to move by form fields. I asked them to remove containers off their rotor just for the heck of it and form controls finally showed up on their rotor. How weird was that? Then when they tried navigating the form, they could only see the first form field. They tried the 3 finger swipe up to scroll down the page and they could no longer see the form control option on the page. I tried having them go on a website but their keyboard input is so bad that they couldn't even type in google.com in the address field in safari. I should also add that they are deafblind and they use cochlears with Braille displays on their phone which is an iphone 17Pro and are running the latest build of IOS 26 without going to 27! Which is horrible with hearing aids because VO keeps crackling btw... Anyway, I then tried having them go on the Metro MSP app because you should be able to see the form fields on that app. I can see all of them when I navigate on the rotor using my phone. This client can't. The best way I can explain it is that it almost seems like VO is not autoscrolling and they can only see the form fields that are actually visible on one screen without scrolling down. I can see all the fields but my VO seems to be autoscrolling. I hope this makes sense. I don't know how to set my phone to mimic the setting my client has going on so I can help them reset it. We of course have tried restarting the phone. I am so stumped! Thanks for any insight anyone has...

Showe
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2026, at 10:29 AM, Curtis Chong <chong.curtis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Showe:
> 
> Are you looking at the exact same website as your client? Is this a site whose address you could share? I'd like to have a look if at all possible.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> Curtis Chong
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trainer-Talk <trainer-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Showe Trela via Trainer-Talk
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2026 9:05 AM
> To: List for teachers and trainers of adaptive technology <trainer-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Showe Trela <myshowe86 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Trainer-Talk] Navigating the Rotor by Form Controls
> 
> Anyone ever come across an issue where vo won't navigate past a couple of form controls? It's almost like vo won't autoscroll to the next page? For example, I can navigate all forms by swiping down on form controls on the rotor but my client can't and they can only see 2 form fields. Hoping someone knows this fix...
> 
> Showe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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