[Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues

Wed Mar 28 02:50:50 UTC 2012

Just one minor correction:  it's the Syracuse zoo; we don't have problems in 
buffalo.

margo and Arrow
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues

>
> Margo is becoming a member of our division, also she has been at venues 
> where guide dog have had issues, especially up in the Buffalo area with 
> the zoos.
> It is being  worked on, since I am also a member of NAGDU and NYAGDU.
> So I know first hand that we here in NY are working on those issues.
> Suggestions have been received loud and clear.
> Margo is also on this list.
>
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>> From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
>> To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:54:09 -0500
>> Subject: [Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues
>>
>> Good evening Cheryl and everyone,
>>
>>     Margo and Marion would be great panelists but I would try to find 
>> others
>> who have worked their dogs in animal venues successfully. There are 
>> others
>> besides myself that have done this. Margo have you taken your dog in to
>> various places where live animals were present and under what conditions?
>>
>>     Marion told me that NAGDU was going to take up the issue of guide 
>> dogs
>> in zoos but I don't believe nothing has happened on their end. I know 
>> Marion
>> had been in touch with the USDA and others concerning the presence of 
>> guide
>> dogs in zoos and received favorable guidance from these folks. I'm not 
>> sure
>> what's up with all of that now. Just my suggestion.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Agenda Item for Convention Meeting
>>
>>
>>
>> It will be taking into consideration, I would also welcome our members 
>> who
>> are not guide dog users, to listen in an visit the NAGDU meeting, rather
>> than us doing double duty on this. Not getting away from the Traveling, I
>> was going to ask President Gwizdala, if he would be part of the panel if 
>> it
>> wouldn't affect his plans at convention, or our own member Margo Downey, 
>> who
>> is President of the NYAGDU Division here in NY to sit on the panel as 
>> well.
>> Depending on first how Margo would feel about being on the panel, since 
>> she
>> does travel a lot.
>> Margo, what say you?
>>
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>>
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>>
>> > From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
>> > To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
>> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:08:23 -0500
>> > Subject: [Travelandtourism] Agenda Item for Convention Meeting
>> >
>> > Hello Cheryl and everyone,
>> >
>> >     One way we can learn how guide dogs can be worked successfully in
>> > particular environments is to learn from those who have done it
>> > successfully. As I pointed out to various individuals I have worked my
>> > dogs
>> > in several animal environments without any problems. I'd like to 
>> > suggest
>> > including an item on the meeting agenda to address this subject. One 
>> > way
>> > this issue can be put behind us is if those who attend our meeting have
>> > the
>> > chance to hear the experiences of those that have worked their dogs in
>> > various types of environments where wild and domestic animals are 
>> > present.
>> > These presentations could do much to put this issue to rest and will 
>> > help
>> > us
>> > gather the knowledge and experiences of guide dog users who work their
>> > dogs
>> > in situations to present to entities where there may be concerns about
>> > guide
>> > dogs entering particular areas. Please take this idea in to 
>> > consideration.
>> >
>> > Peter Donahue
>> >
>> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> > To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bite who?
>> > Not me, not Reese, Not Margo, who then?
>> > Disney, no they are offering alternatives, they are making suggestions,
>> > etc.
>> > We all may not agree on them, but they are alternatives, again at the
>> > parks
>> > the dogs are welcome, there are designated areas that the dogs go 
>> > bathroom
>> > at, not on the trees and bushes inside the park, but in designated 
>> > areas.
>> > They are allowed on 90 percent of all of the rides. They advise but do 
>> > not
>> > forbid guide dogs in certain parts of Animal Kingdom.  So lets move on
>> > with
>> > this.
>> > I will let this topic go on for a little more and then I am going to 
>> > ask
>> > to
>> > leave it alone, until I get more of documentation from Mr. Jones.
>> > Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>> >
>> > Cheryl Echevarria
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>> > > From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
>> > > To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
>> > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:18:14 -0500
>> > > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
>> > >
>> > > Hello Reese, and everyone,
>> > >
>> > >     It's a compromise that could come back to bite them later on.
>> > >
>> > > Peter Donahue
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > From: "Reese" <atlanticstar1 at gmail.com>
>> > > To: "NFB Travel and Tourism Division List" 
>> > > <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:27 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Peter:
>> > >
>> > > They did make a compromise regarding the Kennel issue.  That was to 
>> > > have
>> > > it
>> > > at one central location and have it operated by another Company. 
>> > > This
>> > > way,
>> > > they aren't libel for anything that should happen regarding service
>> > > animals
>> > > or pets.  Yes this maybe anenconvinyants to the blind guide dog user
>> > > however, this was the best solution they could come up with that also
>> > > minimizes there liability.  I doubt if they are going to resend this
>> > > decision so best to take someone along to watch the service animal 
>> > > until
>> > > you
>> > > have concluded your attraction or ride.
>> > >
>> > > Reese
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- Hello again Margo and everyone,
>> > >
>> > >     I thought that was the case. Our proposal is different than what 
>> > > was
>> > > in
>> > > place before. Only service dog users would be allowed to use the
>> > > attraction-side kennels where their dog can wait until the owner has
>> > > enjoyed
>> > > the attraction. They would only need to deploy these kennels at those
>> > > attractions where there are restrictions placed on service dogs
>> > > accompanying
>> > > their owners on the attraction. The pet owners and service dog users
>> > > wishing
>> > > to board their dog for the day can take their animals to the boarding
>> > > kennel
>> > > which is staffed by professional animal care personnel.
>> > >
>> > >
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