[Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues

Wed Mar 28 12:11:39 UTC 2012

Thank you for that Margo.
Also, I am a guide dog user myself who has been to zoos including the Bronx Zoo here in NY.
Again, I am asking either Margo or Marion, preferable Margo, because she wants to become one of the members of our division.

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> From: margo.downey at verizon.net
> To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 22:50:50 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues
> 
> Just one minor correction:  it's the Syracuse zoo; we don't have problems in 
> buffalo.
> 
> margo and Arrow
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues
> 
> 
> >
> > Margo is becoming a member of our division, also she has been at venues 
> > where guide dog have had issues, especially up in the Buffalo area with 
> > the zoos.
> > It is being  worked on, since I am also a member of NAGDU and NYAGDU.
> > So I know first hand that we here in NY are working on those issues.
> > Suggestions have been received loud and clear.
> > Margo is also on this list.
> >
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> >> From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
> >> To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
> >> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 20:54:09 -0500
> >> Subject: [Travelandtourism] Guide Dogs and Animal Venues
> >>
> >> Good evening Cheryl and everyone,
> >>
> >>     Margo and Marion would be great panelists but I would try to find 
> >> others
> >> who have worked their dogs in animal venues successfully. There are 
> >> others
> >> besides myself that have done this. Margo have you taken your dog in to
> >> various places where live animals were present and under what conditions?
> >>
> >>     Marion told me that NAGDU was going to take up the issue of guide 
> >> dogs
> >> in zoos but I don't believe nothing has happened on their end. I know 
> >> Marion
> >> had been in touch with the USDA and others concerning the presence of 
> >> guide
> >> dogs in zoos and received favorable guidance from these folks. I'm not 
> >> sure
> >> what's up with all of that now. Just my suggestion.
> >>
> >> Peter Donahue
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Agenda Item for Convention Meeting
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It will be taking into consideration, I would also welcome our members 
> >> who
> >> are not guide dog users, to listen in an visit the NAGDU meeting, rather
> >> than us doing double duty on this. Not getting away from the Traveling, I
> >> was going to ask President Gwizdala, if he would be part of the panel if 
> >> it
> >> wouldn't affect his plans at convention, or our own member Margo Downey, 
> >> who
> >> is President of the NYAGDU Division here in NY to sit on the panel as 
> >> well.
> >> Depending on first how Margo would feel about being on the panel, since 
> >> she
> >> does travel a lot.
> >> Margo, what say you?
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >> > From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
> >> > To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
> >> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:08:23 -0500
> >> > Subject: [Travelandtourism] Agenda Item for Convention Meeting
> >> >
> >> > Hello Cheryl and everyone,
> >> >
> >> >     One way we can learn how guide dogs can be worked successfully in
> >> > particular environments is to learn from those who have done it
> >> > successfully. As I pointed out to various individuals I have worked my
> >> > dogs
> >> > in several animal environments without any problems. I'd like to 
> >> > suggest
> >> > including an item on the meeting agenda to address this subject. One 
> >> > way
> >> > this issue can be put behind us is if those who attend our meeting have
> >> > the
> >> > chance to hear the experiences of those that have worked their dogs in
> >> > various types of environments where wild and domestic animals are 
> >> > present.
> >> > These presentations could do much to put this issue to rest and will 
> >> > help
> >> > us
> >> > gather the knowledge and experiences of guide dog users who work their
> >> > dogs
> >> > in situations to present to entities where there may be concerns about
> >> > guide
> >> > dogs entering particular areas. Please take this idea in to 
> >> > consideration.
> >> >
> >> > Peter Donahue
> >> >
> >> >  ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
> >> > To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:48 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bite who?
> >> > Not me, not Reese, Not Margo, who then?
> >> > Disney, no they are offering alternatives, they are making suggestions,
> >> > etc.
> >> > We all may not agree on them, but they are alternatives, again at the
> >> > parks
> >> > the dogs are welcome, there are designated areas that the dogs go 
> >> > bathroom
> >> > at, not on the trees and bushes inside the park, but in designated 
> >> > areas.
> >> > They are allowed on 90 percent of all of the rides. They advise but do 
> >> > not
> >> > forbid guide dogs in certain parts of Animal Kingdom.  So lets move on
> >> > with
> >> > this.
> >> > I will let this topic go on for a little more and then I am going to 
> >> > ask
> >> > to
> >> > leave it alone, until I get more of documentation from Mr. Jones.
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > > From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
> >> > > To: travelandtourism at nfbnet.org
> >> > > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:18:14 -0500
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello Reese, and everyone,
> >> > >
> >> > >     It's a compromise that could come back to bite them later on.
> >> > >
> >> > > Peter Donahue
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > > From: "Reese" <atlanticstar1 at gmail.com>
> >> > > To: "NFB Travel and Tourism Division List" 
> >> > > <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:27 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [Travelandtourism] Disney's Kenneling Policy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Peter:
> >> > >
> >> > > They did make a compromise regarding the Kennel issue.  That was to 
> >> > > have
> >> > > it
> >> > > at one central location and have it operated by another Company. 
> >> > > This
> >> > > way,
> >> > > they aren't libel for anything that should happen regarding service
> >> > > animals
> >> > > or pets.  Yes this maybe anenconvinyants to the blind guide dog user
> >> > > however, this was the best solution they could come up with that also
> >> > > minimizes there liability.  I doubt if they are going to resend this
> >> > > decision so best to take someone along to watch the service animal 
> >> > > until
> >> > > you
> >> > > have concluded your attraction or ride.
> >> > >
> >> > > Reese
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- Hello again Margo and everyone,
> >> > >
> >> > >     I thought that was the case. Our proposal is different than what 
> >> > > was
> >> > > in
> >> > > place before. Only service dog users would be allowed to use the
> >> > > attraction-side kennels where their dog can wait until the owner has
> >> > > enjoyed
> >> > > the attraction. They would only need to deploy these kennels at those
> >> > > attractions where there are restrictions placed on service dogs
> >> > > accompanying
> >> > > their owners on the attraction. The pet owners and service dog users
> >> > > wishing
> >> > > to board their dog for the day can take their animals to the boarding
> >> > > kennel
> >> > > which is staffed by professional animal care personnel.
> >> > >
> >> > >
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