[Vendorsmi] Fw: e.o.c vote

Sun Mar 13 07:53:04 UTC 2011

Mr. Lozier claims to be a member of the National Association of Blind Merchants of Michigan.  Is there any wonder as to where he really stands?

While we're asking questions, since when was it declared legal to take a vote via e-mail on any issue before the Elected Operators' Committee?  Maybe it's like the "federal law" that says that operators do not have the right to make motions from the floor at the annual workshop, as acting Program Manager James Hull and EOC member Greg Keathley allege.  By the way, gentlemen, I'm still waiting for the promised documentation of your claim on this matter.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Drea 
To: Joe Sontag ; Fred Wurtzel ; larry p 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 21:20
Subject: Fw: e.o.c vote

Andrea Nelson
Nelekona Foods
517-242-1458

"Have an awesome day!"

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Bill Lozier <flingem at hotmail.com>
To: drea7139 at yahoo.com
Cc: resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net; sjx3 at sbcglobal.net; gregkeathley at yahoo.com; garsvend at aol.com; garsvend at comcast.net; "dlayer8954 at yahoo.com" <dlayer8954 at yahoo.com>; rob.essenberg at yahoo.com; mjcbiz at charter.net; president.nfb.mi at gmail.com; f.wurtzel at att.net; pilarskij at charter.net; terrydeagle at yahoo.com; rutherford_beard at yahoo.com; risap92 at gmail.com; jiggyzee at att.net
Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 12:05:59 PM
Subject: RE: e.o.c vote

Hi Andrea,

who cares, the vote will be the same either way, the NFB is not taking this committee over. and they certainly are not going to tell us to re work our motions.  The NFB merchants division made is it crystal clear on saturday they are not here to help only to criticize and critique.  the animosity and contempt for the EOC was very obvious and thoughtless at the recent meeting.  I know you were not there so i will give you an update.  The merchants division was kind enough to say some are are motions are ok, but not really important.  But they intend to lobby against others and ask to send them back to the EOC for more WORK, what a joke.  So i am very sure the vote will be the same either way.   Why would we ever want more na sayers and obstructionists on the committee as  we can not write good policy now according to the NFB.  When i asked them to tone down their criticism in the letter, they laughed at me, and unanimously voted to slam us!!!!!!! That includes you as you are elected to represent the operators first and not be a puppet of others, so they do not like or respect your work either.  Please feel free to share these comments and thoughts with anyone you like.  Including James Hull, WE ARE NOW DECIDING HOW THE RULES AND POLICIES ARE GOING TO BE INTERPRETED and his opinions are worth as much as the NFBs,  zip, zero nothing, we have been ELECTED to REPRESENT BLIND OPERATORS NOT THE OUTSIDERS THAT HAVE AXES TO GRIND..

Thanks

Bill 
 merchants division member
for now until i get my 2 bucks worth
I have not yet!!!!!
MY VOTE IS FOR RUTHERFORD

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Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 07:38:46 -0800
From: drea7139 at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: e.o.c vote
To: sjx3 at sbcglobal.net; resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net
CC: risap92 at gmail.com; rutherford_beard at yahoo.com; Garsvend at aol.com; hullj at michigan.gov; flingem at hotmail.com; edmondsl2 at michigan.gov; keathleygreg at yahoo.com; jrvending87 at yahoo.com

Are we sure this is legal in the open meetings act to take a vote through email?

Andrea Nelson
Nelekona Foods
517-242-1458

"Have an awesome day!"

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From: shane jackson <sjx3 at sbcglobal.net>
To: resolutioncomm at sbcglobal.net
Cc: risapatricklangtry <risap92 at gmail.com>; Rutherford Beard <rutherford_beard at yahoo.com>; Garsvend at aol.com; hullj at michigan.gov; Bill Lozier <flingem at hotmail.com>; Lucy (DLEG) Edmonds <edmondsl2 at michigan.gov>; keathleygreg at yahoo.com; drea7139 at yahoo.com; jrvending87 at yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, March 1, 2011 11:50:34 AM
Subject: e.o.c vote

greetings all!  WE HAVE TO VOTE ON A TIE  RUTHERFORD AND  RISA TIED ON THE LAST 
WORKSHOP E.O.C VOTE. WE DO NOT WANT TO WASTE MONEY ON A TELE CONFERENCE SO I 
THE VICE CHAIR AND JAMES C. CHAIR ARE ASKING YOU ALL TO VOTE FOR ONE OF YOUR 
FELLOW OPERATORS FOR THE E.O.C. BECAUSE CHERRI EAGLE  IS ON A 60 DAY  SICK 
LEAVE. PLEASE SEND  VOTE BY FRIDAY MARCH 4, 2011. THANK YOU SHANE. SOMEONE 
PLEASE CC. ROB ESSENBURG AND MIKE CON.

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