[Vendorsmi] Fw: Recording of today's MCB meetingregardingBEP-specific objectives

joe harcz Comcast joeharcz at comcast.net
Wed Feb 1 21:15:17 UTC 2012


Follow the money and always follow the money sir and everyone!

Now, by Cannon's own admission McNeal was on New Horizons board whilst she and, indeed others steered contracts deemonstrated in RSA findins. and they aren't so good, but nonetheless. that were called "reversion to vendor".

Man this isn't so complicated and since I'm not cited personally in all of this let me again set the record straigth...

-McNeal was on the Board of New Horizons according to MCB's and Cann's own stupid records in 20008 while she and both New Horizons were sited for "reversion to venture" ...I.e. what I Paul Joseph Harcz, Jr. calls a sort of generically denoted "kick back" or money laundering scheme where as as far as I understand it the MCB took money for transition services "donated" by New horiszons for purposes of multiplying the money through a "third party cooperative" agreement the Malcolm ISD as intermediary and then reverted the contract to who? Whell New Horizons?

Oh yes again Ron Storing is a Trustee nowadays and then of Oakland ISD and MMcNeal was and is and is forever more so in conflict of all sorts of interest as is Cannon now by hhis own self admisssion and his own hand right here and in his own protest so much crap with the stupid State unethicakl board.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: joe harcz Comcast 
  To: Joe Sontag ; NFB of Michigan Vendors List 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Fw: Recording of today's MCB meetingregardingBEP-specific objectives


  While I agree in substance the allusion to referrring to the corrupted AG isn't the answer.

  It is like going to the dog catcher who is violating dog rules for an opinion of going after the dog catcher for violating dog rules.

  This administration and all before it are innately corrupt and there are no f]=safe guards or checks and balances withing this state. Thus we must go beyond the state apratchek.


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Joe Sontag 
    To: VENDORSMI List 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 3:33 PM
    Subject: [Vendorsmi] Fw: Recording of today's MCB meeting regardingBEP-specific objectives



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Joe Sontag 
    To: joe harcz Comcast ; Larry Posont ; Lydia Schuck ; John Scott 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:51
    Subject: Re: Recording of today's MCB meeting regarding BEP-specific objectives


    Agreed, and I think, although I am all for any legal tactics and procedures that may become necessary to keep the State Plate facility in our program, I have always had serious questions about the legality of "suspending the rules" tactic that the commission Board has used at least once before regarding the Business Enterprise Program.  It's high time that someone who is "somebody" asks for  a memorandum of advice from the AG's office on this matter.

    I can't help saying that none of the current problems would be biting us in tender places if the BEP had only done its job in the first place.

    Joe Sontag
    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: joe harcz Comcast 
      To: Joe Sontag 
      Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 10:49
      Subject: Re: Recording of today's MCB meeting regarding BEP-specific objectives


      By tthe way Joe and all I can find nothing in PA 260, statute or regulations where the SLA, the EOC, or the MCB can abridge or otherwise alter the conditions of PA 260 period. End of story.

      Only the legislature can amend or repeal PA 260. Ironic eh given the location at issue?

      Oh and when Zanger talks about the legislators or legislature being unhappy she is blowing smoke and outright lying.

      For she is actually talking about building managers being unhappy.

      The last time I checked they were state employees and not elected officials ergo legislators.

      I don't see any State Rep. or State Senator designation on any bloody building manager in this state.

      Besides even if it were the case that would be a violation of various conflicts of interest laws...But I digress...

      If the Commission votes to rubber stamp Cannon and zanger's so-called "one time exception" then they are derelict in their duties and their sworn obligation to uphold PA 260 and other relevent laws as their primary obligation.

      Now, I'm not saying the Commissioners would do that mind you. It is a hyhypothetical situation.

      But here is something clear the Director and Zanger have scheduled a special meeting for February 8, 2012 to try to have the MCB Commissioners rubber stamp illegal activity and to effectively rubber stamp violations of PA 260.

      For that alone Cannon and zanger should be summarily fired on the spot and for cause, documented cause at that!

      Joe

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Joe Sontag 
        To: VENDORSMI List 
        Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:42 PM
        Subject: Recording of today's MCB meeting regarding BEP-specific objectives


        Here it is, minus the first few minutes due to either operator error or minor equipment malfunction.

        Sorry to say that we're still being forced to fight for every scrap of information that used to be available for the asking and that is required by federal law.  I say that certain people in high places are afraid of what might happen if the people they've been lying to, their bosses, their political contacts, their clients etc. should find out what has truly been going on at MCB and the BEP for many years.

        You may download the recording at:

        http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22266576/MCB01312012.2.MP3

        Joe Sontag


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