[Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

Fred Wurtzel f.wurtzel at att.net
Thu Jun 21 00:43:18 UTC 2012


hello,

 

Ordinarily I would deal with this off list.  I want others on the list to
understand that at least 1 person does not agree that such allegations be
part of our list.  Joe, this is out of line for the NFBMI list.  If it is
so, then it ought to be dealt with appropriately.  Turning our list int a
National Enquirer is not what I feel is proper decorum for our
organizational list.

 

I recognize that we all have different standards of propriety.  I have told
you mine.  This is the last public statement I will make on this topic.

 

Best Regards,

 

Fred

 

From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:29 PM
To: NFB of Michigan Vendors List
Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

 

How so Fred! It is documented that Zanger has had sex with subordinates
which is illegal nepotism.

 

It is also a documented fact that many in BEP staff overlooked sexual
indescretions by one Thomas Kent which resulted in a #$2,000,000 ultimate
settlement against MCB which is in the public record by the way.

 

MCB's portion was attributed to the fact that that convicted pedofile was
reported for sexual harrassment over and over again and then he, Thomas Kent
fired those reporting him in retaliation.

 

MCB's issues were they did nothing when these abuses were reported.

 

Meanwhile back at the ranch this stuff has been hidden from public scrutiny
illegally?

 

And you call me out for stating the obvious?

 

People want to sanction me for a swear word here and there while we had
documented, convicted pedophiles and so forth sanctioned by the system?

 

What a ludicrous thing this is Fred.

 

People should be at very least ashamed at the utter hypocrasy of this stuff.

 

Please, please, and more please don't get all outraged at the likes of me!

 

I'm old and I'm tired and I'm not caving to nicey nicy stuff.

 

Zanger is evil. Hull is evil. Cannon is evil.

 

In fact sir they are documented evil!

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Fred Wurtzel <mailto:f.wurtzel at att.net>  

To: 'NFB of Michigan Vendors List' <mailto:vendorsmi at nfbnet.org>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:11 PM

Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

 

hey joe, you're a little over the line, here, in my opinion, for the NFBMI
list.

 

Best Regards,

 

Fred

 

From: vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:vendorsmi-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:54 PM
To: Joe Sontag; NFB of Michigan Vendors List
Subject: Re: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

 

Who is training the trainers?

 

Oh Zanger can do math on her back. Hull has other positions.

 

It's all geometry don't you know, and all we want is some simple arithmetic.

 

I hate to get all bent out of shape here, but it is a classic case of
"Pretzel Logic". 

 

Great song by the way. 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Joe Sontag <mailto:suncat0 at gmail.com>  

To: VENDORSMI List <mailto:vendorsmi at nfbnet.org>  

Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:39 PM

Subject: [Vendorsmi] Training, Training, Who's Got The Training?

 

I just learned from a credible source that the new operator at the Secretary
of State snack bar facility has made such a strong showing that McVetti and
Associates (or however it's spelled) has bee brought in at their $150.00 per
hour rate to make things even better out there.  Now wait, isn't this the
same firm that provided the core components of the training provided to the
class that this operator allegedly passed?  Bingo!

 

It should be noted that Assistant Manager Hull complained publically and
privately that former trainer John McEntee was doing a poor job with the
classes that he conducted and supervised.  It is known that the operator in
question here had failed the business math class twice prior to completing
the most recent training class and it has been claimed that he was very late
for a class session due to excessive partying with his friends the night
before, making it necessary for Program Manager Zanger to get him out of the
rack and take him out for breakfast.  Under Mr. McEntee and most of the
others who served before him, this would have led to expulsion from the
class.  All eyes are open on this one.


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