[blindkid] [Bulk] Re: subtracting in Nemeth braille

[Brandy W]

Hi, I'm very good at nemith years after I took math because once I hit 
algebra I still had to write out all my work. So it isn't that important to 
work out simple problems. Really how much nemoth is used for the basic 4 
functions. If mestakes happen then she can do some problems for the teacher 
and they can reteach. Bran

Brandy Wojcik
Discovery Toys Educational Leader
www.playtoachieve.com
(512) 231-8697
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of blind children)" 
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Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:40 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blindkid] subtracting in Nemeth braille


>I guess I have a different opinion.  I think she should learn to do them 
>the correct way and get proficient at it so her work can be corrected and 
>the teacher can know exactly what kinds of mistakes are being made.  Also, 
>if she gets proficient at it, and revisits it through the years to keep it 
>in her head, you just never know.  Maybe she may be a TVI or know a parent 
>who has a blind child who needs help.
> I took the Haddley course for Algebra because I did so poorly in high 
> school but I had to take the basic Nemeth course first because I didn't 
> learn those crucial basic things.  If I did learn them young, they weren't 
> revisited to stay in my head.
> Use up lots of paper now so when she's older, she'll be confident when a 
> teacher asks her to show her work.
> Barbara
>
> Snow is God's way of reminding us that beauty can be found even in the 
> coldest hearts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joy Orton" <ortonsmom at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blindkid] subtracting in Nemeth braille
>
>> Dear Friends,
>> Our third grader is doing subtraction with two and three digit numbers 
>> and
>> some borrowing. In print, the number is crossed out and a new digit 
>> written
>> in above it. In nemeth, you have to use a "start cancelling" sign and a
>> "stop cancelling" sign before and after each digit to be changed. I know
>> this takes lots of paper.
>>
>> Right now our daughter is doing subtractions problems in her head.
>> Occasionally she gets mixed up, so the answer "21" might turn into "12." 
>> She
>> knows her math facts, but two and three digit numbers are a lot to keep 
>> up
>> with. She has been introduced to the "long" way to do it in Nemeth, but 
>> she
>> does not seem comfortable with it. (Honestly right now she is missing no
>> more than one in 10 of this kind of problem. Maybe I'm hyper-sensitive.)
>>
>> I don't know if her teachers are emphasizing writing it out. I know right
>> now it's not a big deal, but I think it will be important in the future 
>> to
>> have the skill of cancelling a digit or expression. I can think of 
>> reducing
>> fractions as an example of when it is needed.
>>
>> How have you dealt with this situation?
>> 1. How much do I need to emphasize it?
>> 2. How can I encourage the teachers and transcriptionist to help her work 
>> on
>> it?
>>
>> A related question: Is there an easy to read Nemeth guide or "cheat 
>> sheet"
>> like the alphabet and contraction sheet? I have a 255 page binder from 
>> BANA
>> with the whole code and all the rules, but it is hard to find what I 
>> want.
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Joy Orton
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