[blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 95, Issue 4
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Topic
1. Can anyone suggest someone in the Florida area to do a Psych Testing? Carol I had sent you several emails in regards to this.
3. How can we get screen reading programs for our daughter and what is the best computer for this?
Today's Topics:
1. Re: psych tests (Carol Castellano)
2. Fw: [Blindhomeschooler] Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the
Blind looking for writers (Deborah Kent Stein)
3. Keyboard question and THANK YOU (L)
4. home practice for screen reading programs/computer
(Tom and Deb OConnor)
5. Correction to screen reading/computer question
(Tom and Deb OConnor)
6. Re: home practice for screen reading programs/computer
(Penny Duffy)
7. Re: Keyboard question and THANK YOU (Jaquiss, Robert)
8. Re: home practice for screen reading programs/computer
(Dr. Denise M Robinson)
9. Re: Keyboard question and THANK YOU (Carol Castellano)
10. Re: Keyboard question and THANK YOU (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
11. Re: home practice for screen reading programs/computer
(Zunaira Wasif)
12. Re: home practice for screen reading programs/computer
(Arielle Silverman)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:29:11 -0500
From: Carol Castellano <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] psych tests
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Barbara,
You may have researched all this already, but
here are a few links that lead to at least
discussion of the issues involved in such
testing, which maybe will convince the testers
not to underestimate him. I did not read all of
them and so cannot whether I think they're good.
<http://www.tsbvi.edu/instructional-resources/122-psychological-testing-of-blind-and-visually-impaired-children>http://www.tsbvi.edu/instructional-resources/122-psychological-testing-of-blind-and-visually-impaired-children
http://www.aph.org/tests/intelligencetesting.html
<http://www.perkins.org/resources/scout/students-with-multiple-disabilities/educational-assessment.html>http://www.perkins.org/resources/scout/students-with-multiple-disabilities/educational-assessment.html
This next one leads to a book excerpt on Google:
<http://books.google.com/books?id=OiKau0aqtsYC&pg=PT310&lpg=PT310&dq=psychological+testing+blind&source=bl&ots=wYXh6h1WbH&sig=PnXq7Hvcp6LU0mYKeZrX3cuMLwU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JiFVT-amJe6N0QG6lI28DQ&ved=0CFwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=psychological%20testing%20blind&f=false>http://books.google.com/books?id=OiKau0aqtsYC&pg=PT310&lpg=PT310&dq=psychological+testing+blind&source=bl&ots=wYXh6h1WbH&sig=PnXq7Hvcp6LU0mYKeZrX3cuMLwU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JiFVT-amJe6N0QG6lI28DQ&ved=0CFwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=psychological%20testing%20blind&f=false
Carol
Carol Castellano
President, Parents of Blind Children-NJ
Director of Programs
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org
At 10:06 PM 3/3/2012, you wrote:
>It was just a list of questions about what the
>child can and can't do based on his age level
>which made him come out with an IQ of 25. Can he
>stack blocks, can he use a scissors to cut out
>things, can he play catch with a ball. All in
>all, I guess, they were legitimate questions and
>maybe I just don't know what these tests are
>like. I also understand that as the child gets
>older and his skills don't improve his IQ will
>drop. What we really want is to prove that
>behaviors are interfering with learning. The
>things he wants to learn, he picks up on
>quickly--as do most children--but the things
>he's not interested in, there is absolutely no
>way to motivate him to do so--which is most
>academic skills. Barbara Poetry is an echo,
>asking a shadow to dance. -- Carl Sandburg
>-----Original Message----- From: Carol
>Castellano Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 4:56
>PM To: Blind Kid Mailing List,(for parents of
>blind children) Subject: Re: [blindkid] psych
>tests Barbara, In what way was the previous test
>disastrous? Carol Carol Castellano President,
>Parents of Blind Children-NJ Director of
>Programs National Organization of Parents of
>Blind Children 973-377-0976
>carol_castellano at verizon.net
>www.blindchildren.org www.nopbc.org At 11:36 PM
>3/2/2012, you wrote: >For behavior health
>intervention services to possibly continue
>longer than >we????v??ve been approved initially
>for, we need to do psych evals that show >skill
>deficits in our severely autistic twins. Does
>anyone know what tests >I should ask the
>psychologist if she does to get a more accurate
>reading >than the last disastrous test we did?
>Essentially, they have no usuable >vision.
>Barbara Poetry is an echo, asking a shadow to
>dance. -- Carl >Sandburg
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 17:56:28 -0600
From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
To: "Multiple recipients of NFBnet BlindKid Mailing List"
<BlindKid at NFBnet.org>
Subject: [blindkid] Fw: [Blindhomeschooler] Matilda Ziegler Magazine
for the Blind looking for writers
Message-ID: <019501ccfb2b$956bb090$d70aa8c0 at Debbie>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Erin J." <whistlererin at gmail.com>
To: <Blindhomeschooler at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: [Blindhomeschooler] Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind looking
for writers
>From Ross Hammond, the editor:
Speaking of different topics, I?d like to broaden the magazine a bit and I?m
looking for new content in a very specific area. While we have had multiple
writers submit articles concerning what it?s like to be a blind parent of
sighted children, I would really like to open the magazine to sighted
parents of blind children as well. If you know of any sighted parents of
blind children who you think would be interested in writing some articles
for the magazine, please have them email me at editor at matildaziegler.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 07:42:49 -0800 (PST)
From: L <lburns24 at yahoo.com>
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Subject: [blindkid] Keyboard question and THANK YOU
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Hi all,
When teaching keyboarding skills or just beginning to learn the computer keyboard, should they memorize where the letters are or is it okay to put the braille stickers on each letter of the keyboard??Any input on beginning keyboarding skills and/or games to play and practice would be wonderful as well.? Thanks, Laurie Wages
?
PS THANK YOU for all your help with the gifted testing question I asked a few weeks ago.? I went armed with information, they just weren't sure what test to give Hannah.? The special education director even informed the school staff of a few "mistakes" they had made when telling me certain things!? We all sat together and chose the test and she is being tested this week.? Now we will see what happens with results, but so far, so good.? I don't answer a lot of questions on?this listserv?because I am still learning so much, but it is so wonderful that you all take the time to read these and answer and help the parents!? I hope in the future I can help others as well!? Thank you again!? Laurie
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:04:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net>
To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindkid] home practice for screen reading programs/computer
Message-ID: <28188737.529a3.135e8c0c4ab.Webtop.43 at charter.net>
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My son has not been sent home practice for goals on IEP for
computer/screen reading skills. He is 15 and can only operate his
vision teacher's computer. How would I get them to send practice for him
at home?
Tom & Debbie O'Connor
toc6642 at charter.net
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:07:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net>
To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blindkid] Correction to screen reading/computer question
Message-ID: <5add451f.52a8a.135e8c39883.Webtop.43 at charter.net>
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He is learning on the computer at school in the Vision teachers's room -
not her computer - sorry!
Tom & Debbie O'Connor
toc6642 at charter.net
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 11:18:07 -0500
From: Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com>
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<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] home practice for screen reading
programs/computer
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Debbie..
You are right to be concerned. Its very reasonable to be concerned.
Children don't learn very well in a bubble. He is already 15. It should
be a reasonable accommodation for them to make a computer accessible to him
for school use. What many schools do is to provide a laptop for school and
home use. I know some other people will respond with more detail. The only
thing we have at home right now is a Perkins Braille, refreshabraille18 and
an abacus. Thats all she need right now. Those items all belong to the
school district (well really the state but the school district made sure
she had them)
-Penny
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net>wrote:
> My son has not been sent home practice for goals on IEP for
> computer/screen reading skills. He is 15 and can only operate his vision
> teacher's computer. How would I get them to send practice for him at home?
>
> Tom & Debbie O'Connor
> toc6642 at charter.net
>
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--Penny
----------
A lucky mother to two amazing children - visionfora.blogspot.com
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:20:43 -0800
From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
To: L <lburns24 at yahoo.com>, "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of
blind children)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keyboard question and THANK YOU
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Hello:
I never used a keyboard with braille labels on it. It is very necessary to have the F and J keys marked and the 5 on the keypad. I think I would try having a key chart for reference, but it is important to memorize the keyboard, so if stickers were used, they would need to come off later.
Regards,
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of L
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:43 AM
To: NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List (forparentsofblindchildren)
Subject: [blindkid] Keyboard question and THANK YOU
Hi all,
When teaching keyboarding skills or just beginning to learn the computer keyboard, should they memorize where the letters are or is it okay to put the braille stickers on each letter of the keyboard??Any input on beginning keyboarding skills and/or games to play and practice would be wonderful as well.? Thanks, Laurie Wages
?
PS THANK YOU for all your help with the gifted testing question I asked a few weeks ago.? I went armed with information, they just weren't sure what test to give Hannah.? The special education director even informed the school staff of a few "mistakes" they had made when telling me certain things!? We all sat together and chose the test and she is being tested this week.? Now we will see what happens with results, but so far, so good.? I don't answer a lot of questions on?this listserv?because I am still learning so much, but it is so wonderful that you all take the time to read these and answer and help the parents!? I hope in the future I can help others as well!? Thank you again!? Laurie
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:49:49 -0800
From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" <deniserob at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] home practice for screen reading
programs/computer
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If you would like to see videos of other children from 4 years up and where
their skills are at to be competitive in school in regards to technology,
go to this youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/yourtechvision?feature=mhee
Denise
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Debbie..
>
> You are right to be concerned. Its very reasonable to be concerned.
> Children don't learn very well in a bubble. He is already 15. It should
> be a reasonable accommodation for them to make a computer accessible to him
> for school use. What many schools do is to provide a laptop for school and
> home use. I know some other people will respond with more detail. The only
> thing we have at home right now is a Perkins Braille, refreshabraille18 and
> an abacus. Thats all she need right now. Those items all belong to the
> school district (well really the state but the school district made sure
> she had them)
> -Penny
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net
> >wrote:
>
> > My son has not been sent home practice for goals on IEP for
> > computer/screen reading skills. He is 15 and can only operate his vision
> > teacher's computer. How would I get them to send practice for him at
> home?
> >
> > Tom & Debbie O'Connor
> > toc6642 at charter.net
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> --Penny
> ----------
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Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
509-674-1853
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
doing it." --Chinese Proverb
Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination.
--Albert Einstein
It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
--Walt Disney
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 11:54:45 -0500
From: Carol Castellano <carol_castellano at verizon.net>
To: L <lburns24 at yahoo.com>, "Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of
blind children\)" <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keyboard question and THANK YOU
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Hi Laurie,
I'm in the no Braille stickers camp. Everybody is supposed to learn
to type by touch and it seems to me if the student needs feedback for
which key was pressed, using a speaking program is much better than
using Braille stickers. First of all, in order to read a Braille
sticker, you would have to move your finger across the Braille--you
cannot read it by just pressing on it, so I really don't think
Braille stickers serve a real purpose. Secondly, really efficient
keyboard use involves automatic movement with certain fingers in
certain directions to certain distances. It will be far more useful
to your child to learn the keyboard in this spatial way than by
stopping to read each letter before typing it.
Carol
Carol Castellano
President, Parents of Blind Children-NJ
Director of Programs
National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
973-377-0976
carol_castellano at verizon.net
www.blindchildren.org
www.nopbc.org
At 10:42 AM 3/6/2012, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>When teaching keyboarding skills or just beginning to learn the
>computer keyboard, should they memorize where the letters are or is
>it okay to put the braille stickers on each letter of the keyboard?
>Any input on beginning keyboarding skills and/or games to play and
>practice would be wonderful as well. Thanks, Laurie Wages
>
>PS THANK YOU for all your help with the gifted testing question I
>asked a few weeks ago. I went armed with information, they just
>weren't sure what test to give Hannah. The special education
>director even informed the school staff of a few "mistakes" they had
>made when telling me certain things! We all sat together and chose
>the test and she is being tested this week. Now we will see what
>happens with results, but so far, so good. I don't answer a lot of
>questions on this listserv because I am still learning so much, but
>it is so wonderful that you all take the time to read these and
>answer and help the parents! I hope in the future I can help others
>as well! Thank you again! Laurie
>_______________________________________________
>blindkid mailing list
>blindkid at nfbnet.org
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 08:56:54 -0800
From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" <deniserob at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] Keyboard question and THANK YOU
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Amen and perfectly said Carol!!
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Carol Castellano <
carol_castellano at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi Laurie,
>
> I'm in the no Braille stickers camp. Everybody is supposed to learn to
> type by touch and it seems to me if the student needs feedback for which
> key was pressed, using a speaking program is much better than using Braille
> stickers. First of all, in order to read a Braille sticker, you would have
> to move your finger across the Braille--you cannot read it by just pressing
> on it, so I really don't think Braille stickers serve a real purpose.
> Secondly, really efficient keyboard use involves automatic movement with
> certain fingers in certain directions to certain distances. It will be far
> more useful to your child to learn the keyboard in this spatial way than by
> stopping to read each letter before typing it.
>
> Carol
>
> Carol Castellano
> President, Parents of Blind Children-NJ
> Director of Programs
> National Organization of Parents of Blind Children
> 973-377-0976
> carol_castellano at verizon.net
> www.blindchildren.org
> www.nopbc.org
>
> At 10:42 AM 3/6/2012, you wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> When teaching keyboarding skills or just beginning to learn the computer
>> keyboard, should they memorize where the letters are or is it okay to put
>> the braille stickers on each letter of the keyboard? Any input on beginning
>> keyboarding skills and/or games to play and practice would be wonderful as
>> well. Thanks, Laurie Wages
>>
>> PS THANK YOU for all your help with the gifted testing question I asked a
>> few weeks ago. I went armed with information, they just weren't sure what
>> test to give Hannah. The special education director even informed the
>> school staff of a few "mistakes" they had made when telling me certain
>> things! We all sat together and chose the test and she is being tested
>> this week. Now we will see what happens with results, but so far, so good.
>> I don't answer a lot of questions on this listserv because I am still
>> learning so much, but it is so wonderful that you all take the time to read
>> these and answer and help the parents! I hope in the future I can help
>> others as well! Thank you again! Laurie
>> ______________________________**_________________
>> blindkid mailing list
>> blindkid at nfbnet.org
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>>
>
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--
Denise
Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
CEO, TechVision, LLC
Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
509-674-1853
Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons all done with
keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
"The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
doing it." --Chinese Proverb
Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
imagination.
--Albert Einstein
It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
--Walt Disney
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:33:10 -0500
From: Zunaira Wasif <zwasif at my.fau.edu>
To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
<blindkid at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blindkid] home practice for screen reading
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I don't know what state your in, but I'm a rehab counselor in Florida.
In this state a child with division of blind services aged 15 would
be a candidate for the transitions program. They would basicly help
him get ready for work through eather college or vocational training,
and would provide technology for him as well, like a computer at home.
I would contact your son's rehab counselor and discuss this with her.
On 3/6/12, Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you would like to see videos of other children from 4 years up and where
> their skills are at to be competitive in school in regards to technology,
> go to this youtube channel:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/yourtechvision?feature=mhee
>
>
> Denise
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Debbie..
>>
>> You are right to be concerned. Its very reasonable to be concerned.
>> Children don't learn very well in a bubble. He is already 15. It should
>> be a reasonable accommodation for them to make a computer accessible to
>> him
>> for school use. What many schools do is to provide a laptop for school
>> and
>> home use. I know some other people will respond with more detail. The
>> only
>> thing we have at home right now is a Perkins Braille, refreshabraille18
>> and
>> an abacus. Thats all she need right now. Those items all belong to the
>> school district (well really the state but the school district made sure
>> she had them)
>> -Penny
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > My son has not been sent home practice for goals on IEP for
>> > computer/screen reading skills. He is 15 and can only operate his
>> > vision
>> > teacher's computer. How would I get them to send practice for him at
>> home?
>> >
>> > Tom & Debbie O'Connor
>> > toc6642 at charter.net
>> >
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>
>
> --
> Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> 509-674-1853
>
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons all done with
> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
> imagination.
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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 10:42:01 -0700
From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [blindkid] home practice for screen reading
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Is the issue that he doesn't have access to a screen reader on the
home computer? Or is it that he has a screen reader but no assignments
of things for him to do to practice?
If the latter, can you give him some projects to work on or have him
study the tutorial for his screen reader (JAWS etc.)?
Arielle
On 3/6/12, Zunaira Wasif <zwasif at my.fau.edu> wrote:
> I don't know what state your in, but I'm a rehab counselor in Florida.
> In this state a child with division of blind services aged 15 would
> be a candidate for the transitions program. They would basicly help
> him get ready for work through eather college or vocational training,
> and would provide technology for him as well, like a computer at home.
> I would contact your son's rehab counselor and discuss this with her.
>
> On 3/6/12, Dr. Denise M Robinson <deniserob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> If you would like to see videos of other children from 4 years up and
>> where
>> their skills are at to be competitive in school in regards to technology,
>> go to this youtube channel:
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/yourtechvision?feature=mhee
>>
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Penny Duffy <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Debbie..
>>>
>>> You are right to be concerned. Its very reasonable to be concerned.
>>> Children don't learn very well in a bubble. He is already 15. It should
>>> be a reasonable accommodation for them to make a computer accessible to
>>> him
>>> for school use. What many schools do is to provide a laptop for school
>>> and
>>> home use. I know some other people will respond with more detail. The
>>> only
>>> thing we have at home right now is a Perkins Braille, refreshabraille18
>>> and
>>> an abacus. Thats all she need right now. Those items all belong to the
>>> school district (well really the state but the school district made sure
>>> she had them)
>>> -Penny
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tom and Deb OConnor <toc6642 at charter.net
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > My son has not been sent home practice for goals on IEP for
>>> > computer/screen reading skills. He is 15 and can only operate his
>>> > vision
>>> > teacher's computer. How would I get them to send practice for him at
>>> home?
>>> >
>>> > Tom & Debbie O'Connor
>>> > toc6642 at charter.net
>>> >
>>> > ______________________________**_________________
>>> > blindkid mailing list
>>> > blindkid at nfbnet.org
>>> > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org<
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindkid_nfbnet.org>
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>>> > pennyduffy%40gmail.com<
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindkid_nfbnet.org/pennyduffy%40gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Penny
>>> ----------
>>> A lucky mother to two amazing children - visionfora.blogspot.com
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Denise
>>
>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
>> 509-674-1853
>>
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons all done with
>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>>
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
>> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>>
>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
>> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
>> imagination.
>> --Albert Einstein
>>
>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
>> --Walt Disney
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