[blindkid] blindkid Digest, Vol 119, Issue 5
Marianne Denning
marianne at denningweb.com
Sun Mar 9 14:54:32 UTC 2014
There are people on this list who understand the ADA much better than
I do. I believe this is clear discrimination and the camp is not
allowed to do that. I don't think they are allowed to require you to
provide an aid either. It just depends on how far you are willing to
push this. You might offer to stay around the first day to make sure
he is doing okay. If I understand you correctly, it sounds like
students without disabilities don't have to be approved to go to the
camp so students with disabilities shouldn't have to be approved
either. JMO.
On 3/8/14, Susan Polansky <polanskyse at gmail.com> wrote:
> Our teenage son has attended a private camp for 3 summers. He gets
> familiar with the cabin when he checks in then he gets from point A to
> point B by walking with the other kids either in a group or sometimes with
> another camper acting as sighted guide. The other kids are always willing
> to help, sometimes more than he needs or wants but then he politely informs
> them what he does or does not need and they go on from there.
>
> Susan Polansky
>
> Susan Polansky
>
>
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>> 1. Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp (Crystal Schumacher)
>> 2. Re: Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp (Deborah Kent Stein)
>> 3. Re: Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp (Arielle Silverman)
>> 4. Re: Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp (Crystal Schumacher)
>> 5. Re: Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp (Bo Page)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 20:42:28 -0800
>> From: Crystal Schumacher <crystal_schu at hotmail.com>
>> To: blindkid ask <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> Message-ID: <SNT153-W73B39566B1368C884F475BFF8B0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> My son Ben is 13 years old and is in 7th grade. He is blind with light
>> perception. He attends middle school with seven hundred other students.
>> He
>> has an aide in 3 of his classes, Science, Math, & English. His GPA is
>> 3.8.
>> He is in his second year of band and plays the trumpet by ear. He has
>> just
>> recently started learning the Braille music code. He wants to attend a
>> band
>> camp, which is a private camp that we would pay for. If you are a special
>> needs student, you must first get permission from the camp to register.
>>
>> I called and talked to the camp and in the 40 years of existence they
>> have
>> never had a blind student attend. The camp does not offer or is unwilling
>> to provide any additional support. I think the only support Ben would
>> need
>> is in navigating the camp, as it is very large. I have told them that Ben
>> would do orientation and mobility training before the camp starts, as
>> well
>> as create a tactile map, use a Braille copy of the schedule, and a
>> talking
>> watch to get to places on time. They are unwilling to allow Ben to attend
>> without an Aide. I was trying to avoid an Aide because it gets in the
>> place
>> of making friends and Ben wants to be as independent as possible. They
>> said
>> if he had a friend going, who would be his buddy, we may be able to avoid
>> the Aide. He really doesn't have that kind of a friend, more
>> acquaintances.
>> One point of him going was to try and make a friend or connection.
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone out there has been in this situation. What did
>> you do? Did you go as your child's Aide? Did you hire someone? Did you
>> pay
>> for another student to attend with your child? Did you give up? I have
>> already sent a dozen emails and on top of it his school found out about
>> his
>> desire to go to band camp. They made it a topic during his IEP meeting
>> and
>> wanted input from his teachers as to weather he should be allowed to
>> attend. But mind you, it is a private camp that I would be paying 100% of
>> the tuition, and has nothing to do with public school. Frustrated in
>> Oregon!
>>
>> Crystal
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 21:56:43 -0800
>> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
>> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> Message-ID: <E420BE44DE9B43CA9C8BD0D3FFAB9356 at debkentHP>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Crystal,
>>
>> This story is very disturbing to me! Back in the late Sixties my
>> brother,
>> who is also blind, applied to several music camps (including the famous
>> Interlocken in Michigan) and was told that they categorically did not
>> accept
>> blind students. I would like to think we've gotten beyond that level of
>> discrimination in the past 45 years, but clearly we have a ways to go.
>> Our
>> parents kept looking until they found a music camp that was very
>> receptive;
>> my brother had a great time and returned for several more summers. You
>> could try to fight this band camp and negotiate to get Ben accepted, but
>> it
>> may be a better bet to look for other options instead. Somewhere there
>> is
>> a camp where he will actually be welcome from the outset, where he can
>> make
>> friends and learn music and have fun without the stress of feeling that
>> people are constantly afraid he is going to cause them extra trouble.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Crystal Schumacher
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:42 PM
>> To: blindkid ask
>> Subject: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>>
>> My son Ben is 13 years old and is in 7th grade. He is blind with light
>> perception. He attends middle school with seven hundred other students.
>> He
>> has an aide in 3 of his classes, Science, Math, & English. His GPA is
>> 3.8.
>> He is in his second year of band and plays the trumpet by ear. He has
>> just
>> recently started learning the Braille music code. He wants to attend a
>> band
>> camp, which is a private camp that we would pay for. If you are a special
>> needs student, you must first get permission from the camp to register.
>>
>> I called and talked to the camp and in the 40 years of existence they
>> have
>> never had a blind student attend. The camp does not offer or is unwilling
>> to
>> provide any additional support. I think the only support Ben would need
>> is
>> in navigating the camp, as it is very large. I have told them that Ben
>> would
>> do orientation and mobility training before the camp starts, as well as
>> create a tactile map, use a Braille copy of the schedule, and a talking
>> watch to get to places on time. They are unwilling to allow Ben to attend
>> without an Aide. I was trying to avoid an Aide because it gets in the
>> place
>> of making friends and Ben wants to be as independent as possible. They
>> said
>> if he had a friend going, who would be his buddy, we may be able to avoid
>> the Aide. He really doesn't have that kind of a friend, more
>> acquaintances.
>> One point of him going was to try and make a friend or connection.
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone out there has been in this situation. What did
>> you
>> do? Did you go as your child's Aide? Did you hire someone? Did you pay
>> for
>> another student to attend with your child? Did you give up? I have
>> already
>> sent a dozen emails and on top of it his school found out about his
>> desire
>> to go to band camp. They made it a topic during his IEP meeting and
>> wanted
>> input from his teachers as to weather he should be allowed to attend. But
>> mind you, it is a private camp that I would be paying 100% of the
>> tuition,
>> and has nothing to do with public school. Frustrated in Oregon!
>>
>> Crystal
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:04:06 -0700
>> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, (for parents of blind children)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
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>> I agree. I don't know if ADA covers private camps like this, but if
>> their attitude is so negative already, I'm not sure I would trust them
>> to treat Ben well even if you successfully get him accepted. Unless
>> there's something else special about this camp, I'd say keep looking.
>> When I was a kid I wasn't allowed to attend Jewish camp with my sister
>> because my mother was the one who thought I would need an aide and she
>> told me an aide would be too expensive. Good for you to trust that
>> your son can participate on his own.
>>
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 3/6/14, Deborah Kent Stein <dkent5817 at att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Crystal,
>> >
>> > This story is very disturbing to me! Back in the late Sixties my
>> brother,
>> > who is also blind, applied to several music camps (including the famous
>> > Interlocken in Michigan) and was told that they categorically did not
>> accept
>> >
>> > blind students. I would like to think we've gotten beyond that level
>> > of
>> > discrimination in the past 45 years, but clearly we have a ways to go.
>> Our
>> >
>> > parents kept looking until they found a music camp that was very
>> receptive;
>> >
>> > my brother had a great time and returned for several more summers. You
>> > could try to fight this band camp and negotiate to get Ben accepted,
>> > but
>> it
>> >
>> > may be a better bet to look for other options instead. Somewhere
>> > there
>> is
>> >
>> > a camp where he will actually be welcome from the outset, where he can
>> make
>> >
>> > friends and learn music and have fun without the stress of feeling that
>> > people are constantly afraid he is going to cause them extra trouble.
>> >
>> > Debbie
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Crystal Schumacher
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:42 PM
>> > To: blindkid ask
>> > Subject: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> >
>> > My son Ben is 13 years old and is in 7th grade. He is blind with light
>> > perception. He attends middle school with seven hundred other students.
>> He
>> > has an aide in 3 of his classes, Science, Math, & English. His GPA is
>> 3.8.
>> > He is in his second year of band and plays the trumpet by ear. He has
>> just
>> > recently started learning the Braille music code. He wants to attend a
>> band
>> >
>> > camp, which is a private camp that we would pay for. If you are a
>> > special
>> > needs student, you must first get permission from the camp to register.
>> >
>> > I called and talked to the camp and in the 40 years of existence they
>> have
>> > never had a blind student attend. The camp does not offer or is
>> unwilling to
>> >
>> > provide any additional support. I think the only support Ben would need
>> is
>> > in navigating the camp, as it is very large. I have told them that Ben
>> would
>> >
>> > do orientation and mobility training before the camp starts, as well as
>> > create a tactile map, use a Braille copy of the schedule, and a talking
>> > watch to get to places on time. They are unwilling to allow Ben to
>> > attend
>> > without an Aide. I was trying to avoid an Aide because it gets in the
>> place
>> >
>> > of making friends and Ben wants to be as independent as possible. They
>> said
>> >
>> > if he had a friend going, who would be his buddy, we may be able to
>> > avoid
>> > the Aide. He really doesn't have that kind of a friend, more
>> acquaintances.
>> >
>> > One point of him going was to try and make a friend or connection.
>> >
>> > I am wondering if anyone out there has been in this situation. What did
>> you
>> >
>> > do? Did you go as your child's Aide? Did you hire someone? Did you pay
>> for
>> > another student to attend with your child? Did you give up? I have
>> already
>> > sent a dozen emails and on top of it his school found out about his
>> desire
>> > to go to band camp. They made it a topic during his IEP meeting and
>> wanted
>> > input from his teachers as to weather he should be allowed to attend.
>> > But
>> > mind you, it is a private camp that I would be paying 100% of the
>> tuition,
>> > and has nothing to do with public school. Frustrated in Oregon!
>> >
>> > Crystal
>> >
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:34:13 -0800
>> From: Crystal Schumacher <crystal_schu at hotmail.com>
>> To: blindkid ask <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> Message-ID: <SNT153-W4675D23F46A4712507D090FF8B0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Yes, I am feeling like this camp is more work than it is worth. It is not
>> Ben that needs an aide, but the sighted camp, because they are afraid and
>> uncomfortable with blindness. However, I feel that I need to send Ben, so
>> they can see what a blind kid can do. If I don't send him, it will be
>> another 40 years and nothing will change. If he does attend, they may
>> learn
>> something and decide that blind kids aren't so scary. I want to change
>> what
>> it means to be blind in Oregon and does Ben!
>>
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:04:06 -0700
>> > From: arielle71 at gmail.com
>> > To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> >
>> > I agree. I don't know if ADA covers private camps like this, but if
>> > their attitude is so negative already, I'm not sure I would trust them
>> > to treat Ben well even if you successfully get him accepted. Unless
>> > there's something else special about this camp, I'd say keep looking.
>> > When I was a kid I wasn't allowed to attend Jewish camp with my sister
>> > because my mother was the one who thought I would need an aide and she
>> > told me an aide would be too expensive. Good for you to trust that
>> > your son can participate on his own.
>> >
>> > Arielle
>> >
>> > On 3/6/14, Deborah Kent Stein <dkent5817 at att.net> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dear Crystal,
>> > >
>> > > This story is very disturbing to me! Back in the late Sixties my
>> brother,
>> > > who is also blind, applied to several music camps (including the
>> > > famous
>> > > Interlocken in Michigan) and was told that they categorically did not
>> accept
>> > >
>> > > blind students. I would like to think we've gotten beyond that level
>> of
>> > > discrimination in the past 45 years, but clearly we have a ways to
>> > > go.
>> Our
>> > >
>> > > parents kept looking until they found a music camp that was very
>> receptive;
>> > >
>> > > my brother had a great time and returned for several more summers.
>> > > You
>> > > could try to fight this band camp and negotiate to get Ben accepted,
>> but it
>> > >
>> > > may be a better bet to look for other options instead. Somewhere
>> there is
>> > >
>> > > a camp where he will actually be welcome from the outset, where he
>> > > can
>> make
>> > >
>> > > friends and learn music and have fun without the stress of feeling
>> > > that
>> > > people are constantly afraid he is going to cause them extra trouble.
>> > >
>> > > Debbie
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Crystal Schumacher
>> > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:42 PM
>> > > To: blindkid ask
>> > > Subject: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> > >
>> > > My son Ben is 13 years old and is in 7th grade. He is blind with
>> > > light
>> > > perception. He attends middle school with seven hundred other
>> students. He
>> > > has an aide in 3 of his classes, Science, Math, & English. His GPA is
>> 3.8.
>> > > He is in his second year of band and plays the trumpet by ear. He has
>> just
>> > > recently started learning the Braille music code. He wants to attend
>> > > a
>> band
>> > >
>> > > camp, which is a private camp that we would pay for. If you are a
>> special
>> > > needs student, you must first get permission from the camp to
>> > > register.
>> > >
>> > > I called and talked to the camp and in the 40 years of existence they
>> have
>> > > never had a blind student attend. The camp does not offer or is
>> unwilling to
>> > >
>> > > provide any additional support. I think the only support Ben would
>> need is
>> > > in navigating the camp, as it is very large. I have told them that
>> > > Ben
>> would
>> > >
>> > > do orientation and mobility training before the camp starts, as well
>> > > as
>> > > create a tactile map, use a Braille copy of the schedule, and a
>> > > talking
>> > > watch to get to places on time. They are unwilling to allow Ben to
>> attend
>> > > without an Aide. I was trying to avoid an Aide because it gets in the
>> place
>> > >
>> > > of making friends and Ben wants to be as independent as possible.
>> > > They
>> said
>> > >
>> > > if he had a friend going, who would be his buddy, we may be able to
>> avoid
>> > > the Aide. He really doesn't have that kind of a friend, more
>> acquaintances.
>> > >
>> > > One point of him going was to try and make a friend or connection.
>> > >
>> > > I am wondering if anyone out there has been in this situation. What
>> did you
>> > >
>> > > do? Did you go as your child's Aide? Did you hire someone? Did you
>> > > pay
>> for
>> > > another student to attend with your child? Did you give up? I have
>> already
>> > > sent a dozen emails and on top of it his school found out about his
>> desire
>> > > to go to band camp. They made it a topic during his IEP meeting and
>> wanted
>> > > input from his teachers as to weather he should be allowed to attend.
>> But
>> > > mind you, it is a private camp that I would be paying 100% of the
>> tuition,
>> > > and has nothing to do with public school. Frustrated in Oregon!
>> > >
>> > > Crystal
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 03:20:43 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Bo Page <bo.page at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Blind Kid Mailing List, \(for parents of blind children\)"
>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
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>>
>> You are in a situation with your son that many blind children find
>> themselves in. I don't think there is an easy answer.? Discrimination
>> among
>> the blind is alive an well, even in programs that NFB runs.? No one wants
>> to spend the time or money for kids like ours who need extra help.? Money
>> and budgets rule! Keep looking however, and I am sure you will find
>> something, but unfortunately, it may be not be close to home.
>>
>> Mother of blind 21 year old
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Crystal Schumacher <crystal_schu at hotmail.com>
>> >To: blindkid ask <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>> >Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 2:34 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> >
>> >
>> >Yes, I am feeling like this camp is more work than it is worth. It is
>> > not
>> Ben that needs an aide, but the sighted camp, because they are afraid and
>> uncomfortable with blindness. However, I feel that I need to send Ben, so
>> they can see what a blind kid can do. If I don't send him, it will be
>> another 40 years and nothing will change. If he does attend, they may
>> learn
>> something and decide that blind kids aren't so scary. I want to change
>> what
>> it means to be blind in Oregon and does Ben!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 23:04:06 -0700
>> >> From: arielle71 at gmail.com
>> >> To: blindkid at nfbnet.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> >>
>> >> I agree. I don't know if ADA covers private camps like this, but if
>> >> their attitude is so negative already, I'm not sure I would trust them
>> >> to treat Ben well even if you successfully get him accepted. Unless
>> >> there's something else special about this camp, I'd say keep looking.
>> >> When I was a kid I wasn't allowed to attend Jewish camp with my sister
>> >> because my mother was the one who thought I would need an aide and she
>> >> told me an aide would be too expensive. Good for you to trust that
>> >> your son can participate on his own.
>> >>
>> >> Arielle
>> >>
>> >> On 3/6/14, Deborah Kent Stein <dkent5817 at att.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear Crystal,
>> >> >
>> >> > This story is very disturbing to me!? Back in the late Sixties my
>> brother,
>> >> > who is also blind, applied to several music camps (including the
>> famous
>> >> > Interlocken in Michigan) and was told that they categorically did
>> >> > not
>> accept
>> >> >
>> >> > blind students.? I would like to think we've gotten beyond that
>> >> > level
>> of
>> >> > discrimination in the past 45 years, but clearly we have a ways to
>> go.? Our
>> >> >
>> >> > parents kept looking until they found a music camp that was very
>> receptive;
>> >> >
>> >> > my brother had a great time and returned for several more summers.?
>> You
>> >> > could try to fight this band camp and negotiate to get Ben accepted,
>> but it
>> >> >
>> >> > may be a better bet to look for other options instead.? Somewhere
>> there is
>> >> >
>> >> > a camp where he will actually be welcome from the outset, where he
>> can make
>> >> >
>> >> > friends and learn music and have fun without the stress of feeling
>> that
>> >> > people are constantly afraid he is going to cause them extra
>> >> > trouble.
>> >> >
>> >> > Debbie
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Crystal Schumacher
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:42 PM
>> >> > To: blindkid ask
>> >> > Subject: [blindkid] Blind Student & The Sighted Band Camp
>> >> >
>> >> > My son Ben is 13 years old and is in 7th grade. He is blind with
>> >> > light
>> >> > perception. He attends middle school with seven hundred other
>> students. He
>> >> > has an aide in 3 of his classes, Science, Math, & English. His GPA
>> >> > is
>> 3.8.
>> >> > He is in his second year of band and plays the trumpet by ear. He
>> >> > has
>> just
>> >> > recently started learning the Braille music code. He wants to attend
>> a band
>> >> >
>> >> > camp, which is a private camp that we would pay for. If you are a
>> special
>> >> > needs student, you must first get permission from the camp to
>> register.
>> >> >
>> >> > I called and talked to the camp and in the 40 years of existence
>> >> > they
>> have
>> >> > never had a blind student attend. The camp does not offer or is
>> unwilling to
>> >> >
>> >> > provide any additional support. I think the only support Ben would
>> need is
>> >> > in navigating the camp, as it is very large. I have told them that
>> Ben would
>> >> >
>> >> > do orientation and mobility training before the camp starts, as well
>> as
>> >> > create a tactile map, use a Braille copy of the schedule, and a
>> talking
>> >> > watch to get to places on time. They are unwilling to allow Ben to
>> attend
>> >> > without an Aide. I was trying to avoid an Aide because it gets in
>> >> > the
>> place
>> >> >
>> >> > of making friends and Ben wants to be as independent as possible.
>> They said
>> >> >
>> >> > if he had a friend going, who would be his buddy, we may be able to
>> avoid
>> >> > the Aide. He really doesn't have that kind of a friend, more
>> acquaintances.
>> >> >
>> >> > One point of him going was to try and make a friend or connection.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am wondering if anyone out there has been in this situation. What
>> did you
>> >> >
>> >> > do? Did you go as your child's Aide? Did you hire someone? Did you
>> pay for
>> >> > another student to attend with your child? Did you give up? I have
>> already
>> >> > sent a dozen emails and on top of it his school found out about his
>> desire
>> >> > to go to band camp. They made it a topic during his IEP meeting and
>> wanted
>> >> > input from his teachers as to weather he should be allowed to
>> >> > attend.
>> But
>> >> > mind you, it is a private camp that I would be paying 100% of the
>> tuition,
>> >> > and has nothing to do with public school. Frustrated in Oregon!
>> >> >
>> >> > Crystal
>> >> >
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