[blindkid] Ipad only

Bill Dengler (OS X on REtina macBook Pro) codeofdusk at gmail.com
Wed Nov 12 21:30:15 UTC 2014


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Bill
> On Nov 12, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Marianne Denning via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Jody, that is a great perspective.  There are many things students can
> do with a Windows computer and screen reader or notetaker that you
> still can't do with a smart device.  I believe the day will come when
> that is possible but we are not quite there yet.
> 
> On 11/12/14, Jody Ianuzzi via blindkid <blindkid at nfbnet.org <mailto:blindkid at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>> Hello parents
>> 
>> I am a blind 61 year old grandmother. I joined this list in the hope of
>> sharing my experiences.
>> 
>> I went to school in the 1960s when the only technology available were heavy
>> records and reel to reel recording tapes.
>> 
>> I have always embraced the newest technology and I was probably one of the
>> first to have speech on my computer in the 1980s on a RadioShack TRS 80 with
>> a speech synthesizer and a program developed by the navy. I have used
>> notetakers from the beginning and I have used screen readers on my computers
>> 
>> That said I now do everything on my iPhone 6.  I have adaptive apps that do
>> everything from identify currency, read barcodes,  Scan and read documents,
>> magnify as a handheld CCTV,  talking GPS, and so many more including games.
>> Little that I think when I was playing those heavy records on an old record
>> player that I would one day be listening to talking books on a BARD app in
>> my pocket. Apple offers out of the box accessible technology that we
>> would've dreamed of back in the days of all the old  very expensive adaptive
>> technology.
>> 
>> I agree that a student should have more than one tool in their toolbox but
>> when you consider that all of the adaptive technology combined in my iPhone
>> would have cost $20,000 in the past it is rather remarkable  Personally I
>> would not want to be limited by the new note takers when I have the vast
>> resources of my iPhone which costs hundreds of dollars compared to thousands
>> of dollars of the more limited devices.
>> 
>> Just my two cents.
>> 
>> JODY 🐺
>> 
>> "Life begins where your comfort zone ends."
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Bernadette Jacobs via blindkid
>>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Linda, as much as I think this really stinks, I think you're right. MSB,
>>> (Maryland School for the Blind), is doing the same with their students.
>>> My daughter Virginia is over there.  Yes, she's doing quite well with the
>>> Ipad/Braille Display thing.  However, I agree with most on this list.
>>> Don't give us this ONLY garb!!!  We should be able to use what works for
>>> us???  Now that I'm fuming!!!  Oh Glory!!!  Only trying to be nice and
>>> charitable???
>>> 
>>> Bernie
>>>> On 11/12/2014 11:37 AM, Linda A.Coccovizzo via blindkid wrote:
>>>> My girls are using the iPads with the RefreshaBrailles at school.  They
>>>> are doing well with these because this is what they started out with and
>>>> what they are used to.  I think though, especially my youngest, would
>>>> take off with a braille note taker of some kind, and the Braille Sense
>>>> devices are awesome.  If that is what your daughter is used to, I think I
>>>> would push for the upgrade of that device.  I'm going to go out on a limb
>>>> here, and say that the school is probably planning on purchasing the iPad
>>>> and then using APH quota funds to get the RefreshaBraille.  Much cheaper
>>>> then a new Sense.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blindkid [mailto:blindkid-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Penny
>>>> Duffy via blindkid
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:31 AM
>>>> To: Amber Hall; NFBnet Blind Kid Mailing List (for parents of blind
>>>> children)
>>>> Subject: Re: [blindkid] Ipad only
>>>> 
>>>> Oh and I assume the braille display would have braille input keys.  it
>>>> would A Huge No without.
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2014 11:27 AM, "Penny Duffy" <pennyduffy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Abby uses an IPAD and a braille display because they have 1:1 iPads
>>>>> district wide and it works for her. There are things the does an ok
>>>>> job with and that's braille transcribing can have a lag.  Also the
>>>>> braille sense is always on and ready. I  am still on thr fence and
>>>>> Abby may need a notetaker someday. It seems silly to move your
>>>>> daughter to an ipad only if the braille sense is working so well with
>>>>> her. Do they have a tech eval to say the IPad is a better tool? What is
>>>>> thier reasoning?
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2014 10:52 AM, "Amber Hall via blindkid"
>>>>> <blindkid at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello, it's been a while since I've been on here. But I have a
>>>>>> question for parents of kiddos who are using iPads with braille display
>>>>>> at school.
>>>>>> My daughter has a braille sense. she's had it for probably four years
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> She does very good on it, but the school is wanting her to go to iPad
>>>>>> only with a braille display. I'm kind of hesitant because I know I've
>>>>>> heard negative things on here about doing that.
>>>>>> Any suggestions on what I can say to help my case when I present it
>>>>>> to the school?
>>>>>> My daughter loves her braillesense. She's hesitant to go to the iPad
>>>>>> because a lot of times it doesn't work for think she needs it too.
>>>>>> And she is slow with it because she doesn't have a lot of experience
>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>> But they still want her to transition to only ipad anyway.
>>>>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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