[blindlaw] Pulling for Law Review

[Deepa Goraya]

Just curious, how is Adobe Pro? That converts PDFs to Word as well but don't
know how good it is compared to Nuance.

Deepinder K. Goraya, ESQ.


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Yes, and it does a very good job. It sometimes even manages to identify
tables  and structure them as such in the Word doc, and it also does a fair
job of picking up on fonts, including italics. It also is good for scanning,
if you have to scan and send a properly formatted document, say, a signed
contract, to a sighted person, and it allows for the conversion of
pdf-to-word (including OCR) from file explorer (once installed, options
appear under the applications menu to convert pdf as document to word, as
spreadsheet to excel, etc). I think it's over $100, but I have found it
useful for a variety of things. And, as for the pdf merging business, well,
I hope that I can change that and a variety of other things next year. Out
of curiosity, does your journal still have people physically mark up printed
documents as part of the editing process? Mine does, and although I can
obviously use the word version of the article instead, I have wondered how
common that particular requirement is as well.





On 8/18/2016 3:14 PM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote:
> Interesting; that is not a requirement on my journal and it sounds 
> very laborious. Does that software do OCR on PDFs as well?
>
> On 8/18/16, James Fetter via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I always convert PDF's to Word first; it makes 
>> navigation and copy/paste considerably easier. My law review requires 
>> merging the pdf of the article or other source with the table of 
>> contents for the volume/issue of the journal in which I found it, and 
>> I would highly recommend a product (not cheap but very good) called 
>> Nuance Power PDF Advanced. It works very well as a pdf-to-word 
>> converter as well, sometimes better than Kurzweil 1000. I have found 
>> that even some text PDF's do not interact very well with Jaws, hence 
>> the strategy of preemptive conversion. Congratulations on being on 
>> journal, and please feel free to reach out with any questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/18/2016 12:50 PM, kelby carlson via BlindLaw wrote:
>>> My team has already said they will just avoid giving me print 
>>> sources that haven't already been scanned. I've told them it would 
>>> probably be easiest for me to convert problematic PDFs into Word with
Kurzweil.
>>>
>>> If anyone has suggestions about using the find feature in Adobe that 
>>> would be nice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/18/16, Laura Wolk via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> I second everything Tai said. Except for the caveat that if certain 
>>>> articles were very print source heavy, I simply just switched off 
>>>> of them onto other articles. My law review team was very willing to 
>>>> be flexible with me in that way, as they would with, for instance, 
>>>> students who were studying abroad and so did not have access to ILL 
>>>> or to our print library. Alternatively, sometimes I would offer to 
>>>> check longer ranges of footnotes on articles in exchange for 
>>>> someone else taking on my print sources. Again, this was also a 
>>>> practice implemented for students studying abroad. I think the goal 
>>>> is to come up with equitable yet flexible solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Laura
>>>>
>>>> On 8/18/16, Tai Tomasi via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I ran inaccessible PDFs through ABYY FineReader or similar OCR 
>>>>> software when possible. If that did not render the document 
>>>>> accessible, I worked with a human reader to access them.
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>>>>> From: BlindLaw [mailto:blindlaw-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> kelby carlson via BlindLaw
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>>>>> Subject: Re: [blindlaw] Pulling for Law Review
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not always the one pulling sources directly, and i'm having a 
>>>>> lot of trouble with certain PDFs. The regular ctrl-F command 
>>>>> doesn't seem to work right, and the JAWS find command can only 
>>>>> search the page that is on the screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, how exactly did you deal with print sources?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/18/16, jim--- via BlindLaw <blindlaw at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I made journal this year myself, and would appreciate any infor 
>>>>>> you get 'r'
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>>>>>> kelby carlson via BlindLaw
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:03 PM
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>>>>>> Subject: [blindlaw] Pulling for Law Review
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering if anyone on here has been on law review in the 
>>>>>> past and has pulled sources. The production team and I are 
>>>>>> struggling to figure out an efficient process to do this with a 
>>>>>> screen reader. Any help is greatly appreciated. I'd like to do as 
>>>>>> much of it independently as possible.
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