[BlindMath] screen reader with math equations?

Jonathan Fine jfine2358 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 20:18:10 UTC 2018


Hi John

Thank you for making these files available. I've downloaded them, and taken
a first look. I suggest we carry out further discussion off-list, until
there's something to report.

with best wishes

Jonathan

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 5:00 AM, John Gardner via BlindMath <
blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Jonathan, sorry that it took me till now to get this organized. I have the
> following two files that I happily give to anybody who wants to try LEAN:
> *The current beta LEANMath installer:
> http://www.access2science.com/NFB2017/LEANMath-0.9.1-win32.msi
> *the current documentation file:
> http://www.access2science.com/NFB2017/LEANVersion0.9.1.zip
>
> and if you would like to try and build it:
> http://access2science.com/downloads/lean_build.zip
>
> You Need to have installed:
> python3.3 or higher (maybe lower will work, but must be 3.something
> PySide
> platform_utils
> pywin32
> q.py
> I think that the platform_utils app was written by Michael Whapples, and
> you
> may also need accessible_output - an app that was certainly written by him.
> I've added another zip file with those two:
> http://access2science.com/downloads/Whapples.zip
>
> The console string that is used to compile this is the fifth line in the
> setup.py file.
>
> Please have a look and, if you are still willing to consider helping, let's
> talk about it. By e-mail or skype.  Thanks for asking!
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Jonathan
> Fine via BlindMath
> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 1:17 PM
> To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics
> <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jonathan Fine <jfine2358 at gmail.com>; John Gardner
> <gardnerj at oregonstate.edu>
> Subject: Re: [BlindMath] screen reader with math equations?
>
> Hi John
>
> I lurk on the BlindMath list, and would like to know more about the LEAN
> editor. I'm interested in helping out, to make LEAN open source.
>
> I'm a Python programmer. I used to work for the Open University in the UK,
> where I helped a bit with math accessibility. I'm also trained as a
> mathematician.
>
> with best regards
>
> Jonathan
>
> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 3:46 PM, John Gardner via BlindMath <
> blindmath at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Steve, the latest word on the LEAN Editor is that I agreed some time
> > ago to make it open source. But truthfully I would like some help
> > refactoring it before I do that. As you know I am not a competent
> > software writer, and LEAN is just a hacked-up Python program. It has
> > some crucial communication parts written by competent people, but I am
> > sure that it is just luck that it works at all. In the meantime,
> > anybody who wants to use it is welcome.
> >
> > Incidentally, the original post from Cindy Arthur said she was using
> > the MS Math Editor. NVDA does not read Math Editor equations. You must
> > have MathType installed for NVDA (and for LEAN). MathType will convert
> > equations written with the Math Editor, though the conversion is not
> > perfect. But then Math Editor isn't perfect either.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Steve Jacobson via BlindMath
> > Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:18 PM
> > To: 'Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics'
> > <blindmath at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Steve Jacobson <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
> > Subject: Re: [BlindMath] screen reader with math equations?
> >
> > John Gardner's LEAN Editor is another approach.  Perhaps if he sees
> > this he can provide the latest information on that.  I had the chance
> > to use it last summer and thought it has real potential.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BlindMath [mailto:blindmath-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > Cindy K Arthur via BlindMath
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 2:41 PM
> > To: blindmath at nfbnet.org
> > Cc: Cindy K Arthur <ckarthur at sandburg.edu>; Jacob W. Runge
> > <jrunge at sandburg.edu>
> > Subject: [BlindMath] screen reader with math equations?
> >
> > Any suggestions on a way to create math equations that can be read by
> > a screen reader? We are largely using NVDA for screen reading. We have
> > tried the equation editor in Microsoft word with no success as well as
> > the equation editor, Math ML. We also tried using MathPlayer but
> > couldn't seem to get it to work.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Cindy K. Arthur
> > Technology Assistant
> > Carl Sandburg College
> > (309) 341-5438
> > ckarthur at sandburg.edu<mailto:ckarthur at sandburg.edu>
> > ftlc at sandburg.edu<mailto:ftlc at sandburg.edu>
> > [CDE17-DCC-Winner_RGB]
> >
> >
> >
> >
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