[nabs-l] dog v. cane

[Steve Jacobson]

Nicole and others,

I am a cane user, but it does not particularly bother me to hear of ways the cane can be a pain.  There are definitely times when it is, and all of us who use 
canes have to try to think about how our canes can affect others.  However, I've been in a number of discussions like this over the past fifteen years or 
so, and as soon as we start talking about the negatives of either, someone will feel the need to point out the negatives of the other.  It doesn't take long 
once we reach that point before someone gets mad.  I am not the moderator and am here  because I occasionally back up Dave Andrews with technical 
problems, but I don't want to see discussion degenerate as it has always done in the past when we go down this road, and believe me, it always does.  
<smile>  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:36:04 -0800, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home wrote:

>Lol, and what about dropping it down the elevator shaft or hitting the heels 
>of the person in front of you?

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." <freethaught at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] dog v. cane


>> Hello Seah,
>>
>> Cane travelers can travel plenty fast, but I really never had a dog stab 
>> me in the middle when its paws got stuck in a side walk crack.
>>
>> Antonio Guimaraes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Sean Whalen wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with the vast majority of what has been said on this topic, and
>>> completely agree that each has its benefits and drawbacks.
>>>
>>> One thing I would like to point out, however, is that one can walk plenty
>>> fast with a cane. This is especially true when you are walking to a
>>> destination which you have found previously. And, honestly, many of the
>>> places we all go are places we go on more than one occasion. A dog is
>>> definitely quicker when you are not sure of the route you are taking or 
>>> what
>>> kinds of cues you are looking for, but once you know where you are going,
>>> the cane can allow you to walk as quickly as anybody else. I will grant 
>>> that
>>> travel with a dog can appear more graceful, because you are able to 
>>> navigate
>>> obstacles without contacting them with a cane, but I disagree with the
>>> thought that cane travel is necessarily slower. I can walk around 
>>> familiar
>>> parts of my city as quickly as anybody I know, dog user or sighted
>>> individual.
>>>
>>> This said, dogs are certainly faster at navigating through crowds or
>>> cluttered areas, but, at least for me, the vast majority of my walking is
>>> done down a sidewalk or the side of a road, where, as I say, a cane user 
>>> can
>>> walk as fast as anybody. And, the time I might give up in travel, I make 
>>> up
>>> for by not having to care for an animal, so there are two sides to the
>>> efficiency argument as well.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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