[nabs-l] NABS List Manners

Arielle Silverman arielle71 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 22:32:02 UTC 2014


I agree with greater enforcement. I also think it would be nice if
folks didn't respond to inappropriate messages on list. A single
off-topic or obnoxious message often goes unnoticed but a huge thread
of replies clutters inboxes and annoys people, plus rewarding someone
who might be making an obnoxious post to glean attention. If a post
bothers you, I suggest quietly emailing Mary and Dave Andrews so they
can handle the offense and then quietly letting it go. If you aren't
sure whether a message you see is inappropriate, ask the moderators
privately. These are just my suggestions.
Arielle

On 8/14/14, Antonio Guimaraes via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Mary and all,
>
> This is not the first time list etiquette and civility has been brought up.
>
> People would think twice, or otherwise no longer have the opportunity to be
> inappropriate on list if there was enforcement of guidelines which suspended
> or banned people from list for violations.
>
> I have been threatened once for one spam sent to NFBNet lists, and I never
> did it again. The specifics do not concern the NABS list and are not
> relevant to the discussion at this time, but you bet I could have been
> banned by moderators, and as stated above, would no longer have the chance
> to polite the list in whatever way deemed inappropriate by the moderators.
>
> Some off topic messages to NABS irk me, but are infrequent enough that they
> don’t bother me. I don’t complain, hit delete ad move on.
>
> One much example are the periodic announcements from David about internet
> radio. It takes me a few seconds to see the topic and decide the
> announcement does not interest me. I delete, and move on with no stress. I’m
> sure David’s programs are interesting to some, and I accept a member’s
> self-promotion as  a part of the supportive NABS community.
>
> I am not as tolerant of messages with personal information about others, or
> messages filled with self-disclosure on very personal and sensitive topics.
>
> We would be a better list if we were expected to act civilly, stay on topic,
> and so on, and be wormed, and disciplined when we do not.
>
> Antonio
>
> On Aug 10, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Mary Fernandez via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Good evening all,
>> I hope everyone's weekend was very enjoyable.
>> I am writing because I am deeply concerned about the manners, or lack
>> thereof, which are more and more frequently being displayed on the
>> list serv. I'll quickly remind you that the list is supposed to be a
>> resource for blind students, of all ages, young professionals, parents
>> and teachers. The list is "public" and "archivable", which means that
>> anything we write on here is easily brought up when someone, anyone,
>> conducts a Google search.
>> When someone inquires about software, or help with anything, which
>> relates to blindness, or has a question and asks that you contact them
>> off line, it does not mean that you can be disrespectful to that
>> person. The list is NOT here for insults to be thrown back and forth,
>> for inappropriate comments, or for general disrespect towards others.
>> So, here is my question, how can we improve communication among list
>> members? Does this list still have value, and if so what are the
>> values and how to we maintain them? Let's have a discussion about
>> issues and solutions. I'm probably opening a can of worms, but I'm
>> truly concerned about the tone of the messages on here, and the
>> frequency with which they have been occurring. Please, be polite and
>> respectful when responding to this message, and if you have strong
>> feelings you do not wish to make public, simply click on my email
>> address: trillian551 at gmail.com and reply to me directly.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Sincerely,
>> Your list moderator,
>>
>> --
>> Mary Fernandez
>> "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will
>> forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them
>> feel."
>> --
>> Maya Angelou
>>
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