[nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

Fri Aug 29 06:48:21 UTC 2014

Good evening, Kirt, and others,,

         In fact, I was called upon this very thing by someone else, 
also on this list, , and I do say so myself, I am, in fact, acting 
very hypocritical if not down right belittling of how others chose to 
move around, even while  accusing organizations like the Federation 
of doing just that. I'm sorry. Guess there's no real excuse or 
explanation of this, just that I lose track. Please accept my 
ownership of this!
for today, Car

  myself because that's generally the most
>efficient and convenient way for me to do it; it's not about proving a
>point, or making people see that I'm capable, it's just easier and
>more natural for me than finding a random passenger or airport
>employee and taking an arm or shoulder. I don't think one way is
>necessarily superior to any other. I just get frustrated when people
>tell me I should be traveling a certain way because it's what works
>best for them.
>   Carly, I can't help but noticing a little bit of irony here. You're
>the one complaining that the Federation is too rigid, dogmatic and
>seeks to tell every other blind person there is only one right way to
>travel. Yet, from my vantage point, it seems as though you are guilty
>of the very thing which you are accusing us of. With a few unfortunate
>acceptions, I haven't seen anybody on this list criticize or belittle
>the way you choose to travel; this leads me to wonder why you, of all
>people, are taking issue with those of us who choose to travel
>differently than you do.
>Best,
>Kirt
>
>On 8/28/14, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> > I just flew to Orlando by myself for national convention. I boarded alone.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve Jacobson
> > via nabs-l
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 11:02 AM
> > To: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
> >
> > While I don't completely disagree with Carly, I don't believe there is any
> > law or regulation preventing a blind person from boarding a flight alone,
> > and I don't think we can afford to let such claims go unchallenged even if
> > we feel we might need help.  I don't know how best to handle this
> > particular
> > instance, but we have to do what we can to fight any tendency for
> > government, business, or other well-intentioned people to feel someone else
> > should be responsible for us.  Requesting a written copy of the policy
> > might
> > be a good start.  I have boarded alone countless times as have many others
> > here.  There are times when a person might require help, and different
> > people have different challenges so I am not saying it is never right to
> > get
> > boarding assistance, but that should not be a requirement, and I believe
> > each of us has to try to be as independent as our ability allows.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Steve Jacobson
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:25:13 -0700, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote:
> >
> >>Good evening, Siddhi,
> >>         While I don't believe in restricting anybody from boarding an
> >>airplane, or any other conveyance, it would seem to me  your trip
> >>unfolding more seamlessly if you were to inlist some help from, say,
> >>Ol'Sighty, anywhere. It is my belief that, Ol'Sighty's often pointless,
> >>and in many cases arbitrary measurements of us are in fact, based on
> >>the ends to which you arrive, not the means you happend to use to get
> >>there. So, I don't think they care how the blink goes about arriving at
> >>a particular end. Take this example. I believe Ol'Sighty will be
> >>impressed to see us flying period, not that we might have completely
> >>"independently" boarded the plane, and found a seat.
> >>I tend to believe that the person who gets to lead you to your seat,
> >>while you are holding your cane and interacting with you,  is bound to
> >>find more of an education about blind people's capabilities and
> >>potentials than watching the blink bumble around, groping for
> >>everything, of course, "independently."
> >>for today, Car
> >>408-209-3239
> >
> >
> >>>Hope you all are doing well.
> >>>
> >>>Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
> >>>
> >>>I have flight at Chicago airport operated by
> >>>EXPRESSJET                 AIRLINES DBA
> >>>UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines. I am in conversation with their
> >>>customer care executive. They have informed me that On US domestic
> >>>airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
> >>>alone. Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
> >>>implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
> >>>this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
> >>>assistance on board?
> >>>
> >>>Sincerely
> >>>Siddhi
> >>>
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