[nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
Linda Gwizdak
linda.gwizdak at cox.net
Wed Apr 21 16:23:22 UTC 2010
Hi Cheryl E.,
I also live in a fairly Hispanic neighborhood and I don't really have much
problem with them disliking my dog. Most of the time, they're saying,
"Oooh! Perro!! Wow! Wow! (Spanish version of Bow Wow)" or "Ooooh! Perrito!!
(Puppy!) They say this to their kids. Very few of the Mexican kids run up to
play with my dog like the white, American ADULTS do! Generally they like
Landon.
I have seen some of the same reactions as you describe with some Black folks
as well. I think it all has to do with people's socialization with dogs in
the first place and their early experiences with dogs as well. I get more
shrieks from Muslin Somoli women more than anyone else. I don't think they
have pet dogs in Somolia or in many of the Muslim countries.
So, these are all just people who have not grown up with dogs as we do in
this country. I respect them by keeping my dog close to me when around them
on the bus - easy to do because they move to another seat on the bus! I
generally have no real problem with anyone around here regarding my dog
except for some ethnic restaurants.
Lyn and Landon
----- Original Message -----
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
> oh yes lack of education, especially, example: I had to go to the
> pharmacy yesterday and I live in a very Hispanic neighborhood, when I went
> to sit and wait for my meds, a woman yelled and screamed and picked up her
> child, and said in spanish bad dog, I said in spanish, ciega which mean
> blind of it it's a man I say Ciego, and I say Perro Trabajan so sorry for
> incorrectly spelling if someone on here is spanish.
>
> And then thank god another lady with her daughter also told the lady that
> I was blind and that Maxx is a guide dog.
>
> You see in certain countries and also here, there are loose dogs, a lot of
> people don't watch out for there dogs. And most of the dogs in those
> countries are bad dogs. That is what I found out, so a lot of the people
> coming here are uneducated but there children are.
>
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hope Paulos" <hope.paulos at maine.edu>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>
>
>> I'm not sure if religion has anything to do with it, but I'm sure that
>> lack
>> of education *does* play a big role in individual's attitudes towards
>> guide
>> dogs. After all, we have many individuals in the United States who act
>> the
>> same way and who are not accustomed to being around individuals with
>> disabilities. I think it all stems back to needing to educate people.
>> I'm
>> a high school Spanish teacher and when I was in college did a lot of
>> research on Hispanic culture. I remember talking to my professor/friend
>> from Peru. She said that although Peru had a lot of services for the
>> blind,
>> she was surprised to see someone as competent/poised as I was. She had to
>> learn to accept that blind people could do everything sighted people do.
>> She
>> was nervous about the dog in the beginning, but after she got to know
>> her a
>> bit, she was able, when I allowed her, to pet my dog and be social with
>> her.
>> Take care and sorry for the long post.
>> Hope and Beignet
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>>
>>
>> > Yes, I agree that religion has something to do with it, along with
>> > ignorance and poverty. I do live in a rural area. When I have gone
>> > into Guadalajara, I have met a lot of people who think using a guide
>> > dog is pretty neet stuff. At present, there are no guide dog schools
>> > here. about 15 years ago, someone tried to start a guide dog school
>> > but couldn't get enough support. Big shock.
>> >
>> > On 4/19/10, Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
>> >> Then to they are a devoutly catholic community, and the catholic faith
>> >> does
>> >> not always place the blind at the top of the heap. Culture and
>> >> religion
>> >> work
>> >> against us here.
>> >>
>> >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>> >> CEO/Founder
>> >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
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>> >> New York, New York 10004
>> >> www.myblindspot.org
>> >> PH: 917-553-0347
>> >> Fax: 212-858-5759
>> >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
>> >> who
>> >> is
>> >> doing it."
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>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> Of Hope Paulos
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:00 PM
>> >> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>> >>
>> >> Just to put my 2 cents in here, this seems to be the belief for all
>> >> hispanic
>> >>
>> >> culture. Had the same views of me and my guide dog from my friends in
>> >> Peru
>> >> and Chile. Think it's that there aren't very many blind peole with
>> >> guide
>> >> dogs in these parts of the world.
>> >> Hope and Beignet
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> >> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:27 PM
>> >> Subject: [nagdu] Mexican attitudes towards blind people
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Rebecca,
>> >>>
>> >>> I believe that there is quite a difference in attitudes, blind
>> >>> Mexican
>> >>> or blind gringo. From what I have experienced, Mexicans are very
>> >>> nice
>> >>> and helpful to me and amazed that I am capable of doing anything.
>> >>> The only blind Mexicans that I have run into, literally, have been
>> >>> beggers.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 4/19/10, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi Linda.
>> >>>> If I can ask, why did you bring your dog to Mexico in 1992, and why
>> >>>> did
>> >>>> you not bring a cane?
>> >>>> Am not trying to judge, just understand even if it is "I wasn't
>> >>>> thinking".
>> >>>> To Cheryll, how are attitudes towards blind people in Mexico? Any
>> >>>> difference in attitude between blind men and blind women?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> >>>> Behalf Of Linda Gwizdak
>> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:37 PM
>> >>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Cheryl O,
>> >>>> Welcome to the list!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I see you live in Mexico. Would you please tell us about life in
>> >>>> Mexico
>> >>>>
>> >>>> with a guide dog?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am Lyn and I'm working with my eighth dog - foourth one from
>> >>>> Seeing
>> >>>> Eye.
>> >>>> My dog is Landon, a red Golden/Lab cross and I got him in 2007.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We work as pet assisted therapists at a military hospital and in two
>> >>>> programs with our local Humane Society. Landon LOVES this work! LOL
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I live in San Diego so we are very near Tijuana, BC, Mexico. I
>> >>>> haven't
>> >>>> visited there since 1992 and don't feel like going there again.
>> >>>> there
>> >>>> is a
>> >>>> warning from the US State Dept. about traveling to Mexico because of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>
>> >>>> drug cartels "activity" along the border towns.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I brought my guide dog there, the restaurants didn't want me to
>> >>>> bring
>> >>>> my dog inside. After my explanations of the dog being my guide,
>> >>>> they
>> >>>> compromised by having me sit by the door! Also, I had someone come
>> >>>> up
>> >>>> to me
>> >>>> to ask if I'd sell him my dog! I said no and told him in Spanish
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> dog was my eyes - a perro de guia. He then left. After that, I
>> >>>> thought
>> >>>> about what if the guy reacted differently and grabbed my dog from me
>> >>>> and
>> >>>>
>> >>>> there I would be, in a foreign contry, without a mobility aid! I
>> >>>> didn't
>> >>>> even
>> >>>> have a white cane with me. Along the border towns, they steal dogs
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> sell
>> >>>> to labs even though reputable labs will NEVER take a microchipped or
>> >>>> tatooed
>> >>>> dog as it is very illegal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The other thing is that Mexico has no laws regarding having dogs
>> >>>> vaccinated
>> >>>> against Rabies or other diseases. Do you know if any of this has
>> >>>> changed?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Again, welcome and look forward to hearing from you about life in
>> >>>> Mexico!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lyn and Landon
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Cheryl Osborn" <chapalacheryl at gmail.com>
>> >>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> >>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 1:05 PM
>> >>>> Subject: [nagdu] Thanks for the welcome
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks for the welcome Marsha.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Your Q is certainly not too personal. I live in a very small town
>> >>>>> in
>> >>>>> central Mexico. My husband and I retired here about 4 years ago.
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>> > Cheryl in Mexico
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