[nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket

[Tamara Smith-Kinney]

Ah, I see now where you are coming from.  In many ways, I agree
wholeheartedly.

But when I think in sociological and historical terms, it occurs to me many
of the words we use to indicate class distinctions are based on the
assumption of pedestrian vs. horseman...  it's been a foundation of western
culture.  Those who walk don't count as much as those who ride horses...  Or
now, drive cars.

So what would be the overall cultural implications for us if we suddenly
demonstrate that blind people *can* drive?

Dunno, really.  Those are just musings.  But the problems with employment
and access and all the rest of the rights we seem to have to work -- or even
fight -- to enjoy seem to add up our being second-class citizens.  At best.

Well, our chances of driving in the near future in our regular lives is
still far off, so a pipe dream except perhaps for the young up and comers
among us.  /smile/

Still, if we *can* drive, maybe we move up from the pedestrian class in the
eyes of others?

Or is that a pipe dream, too? /grin/

Tami Smith-Kinney

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of William ODonnell
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 2:41 PM
To: the National Association of Guide Dog UsersNAGDU Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket

Said well.
I just feel fustrated that we are focusing our attention on the issue of
driving when hour current situation in America is still bleak.  It is great
to dream; let, this be a dream for much later.  Let us still work on access
issues, full and integrated employment, education, etc.  I think that if the
stitistics were the opposit, then we could focus attention on something such
as driving.


--- On Mon, 8/9/10, Julie J <julielj at windstream.net> wrote:

> From: Julie J <julielj at windstream.net>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Disabled vet and service dog banned from supermarket
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 5:22 PM
> William wrote:
> *These issues still show that as an organization, where
> numbers matter, we need to educate and fix the problems that
> currently exist rather than creating new problems or gaining
> support for "pipe dreams".  As a whole, we need to
> focuse our attention acoardingly.  *
> 
> I'd be very interested to know what issues you'd put in
> each catagory: current problems, created problems and pipe
> dreams.
> 
> I'd agree that fixing problems is an excellent idea. 
> I'd also agree that we don't need to create problems, but
> sometimes things have to get worse before they get
> better.  And as far as pipe dreams...well, if we never
> dream then we will never achieve anything.
> 
> Julie 
> 
> 
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