[nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Apr 22 18:09:45 UTC 2013 

That was actually what he suggested: it would be difficult to put a mask and gown on the dog. LOL. I didn't contest it really, just asked. I wasn't going to be allowed in there anyway, so it wasn't really an issue; it was mainly a point of conversation for future reference.

CL

On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net> wrote:

> It's my understanding that according to the Centers for disease Control, if
> we have to dress in gowns or masks to go into some hospital area, our dogs
> can't go in there such as a bone marrow transplant room.
> 
> Margo and Arrow
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:52 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery
> 
> Regarding dogs in hospitals: I am doing chaplaincy work at a hospital. They
> don't let volunteer chaplains into isolation rooms. When this was explained
> to me, they also said that the dog couldn't go in there anyway. I questioned
> it anyway, and though I won't question it much at this time since I can't go
> in anyway, I am curious about such as this. 
> 
> Cindy Lou
> 
> On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:06 AM, "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Ken,
>>  FYI, there are few specific areas in which a service dog can be
> restricted and the E.R is not one of them. a public entity or private entity
> that provides public accommodation must demonstrate the dog poses a direct
> threat to the health or safety of others that cannot be eliminated by a
> reasonable modification to policies, practices, or procedures. As it
> pertains to hospitals and other health care facilities, I have attached
> guidance from the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) to this
> message. If our local VA has a policy that is noncompliant with the ADA,
> please let us know and our affiliate division president will look into it!
>> 
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ace" <ken at acenovels.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] my surgery
>> 
>> 
>>> Mary, its great to hear your story and thanks for sharing. I go to a 
>>> VA Hospital for my needs and about three months ago I was bringing 
>>> Ace in after relieving himself in the rain, stepped into the lobby 
>>> and my feet went out from under me and I landed on my head. I came to 
>>> with Ace licking my face. I decided I should go to the VA and when I 
>>> arrived at the ER they were so backed up that after three hours I 
>>> decided to go home and come back the next morning. Since I had no idea
> how long I would be I sent my wife on to work.
>>> I was lying on a gurney and Ace was acting strange and I thought he 
>>> needed to go out so I said I was going to take him out but they said 
>>> NO they would take him for me. When he returned I was told that he
> couldn't be in the ER.
>>> I said I thought he could be anywhere but OR. I was informed that he 
>>> wasn't allowed in the OR, ER or ICU. I said I will call my wife and 
>>> she will be here in about 30 minutes. Ace was just becide him self 
>>> and I stuck out my hand and called to him. He jumped up on the gurney 
>>> with me, put his head on my shoulder. A Dr. came by and said "You 
>>> can't have that" and I stopped him and said please leave the dog alone,
> he is just concerned about me. The Dr.
>>> turned to the ER group and said "Everyone, just ignore the dog, he 
>>> isn't really here".
>>> They, Guide Dogs, know more about how you feel. God did a good job 
>>> when he created DOGS.
>>> Ken & Ace
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary 
>>> Wurtzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:18 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] my surgery
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to share about my recent surgery and how it went fore Felix and
> me.
>>> First, for some reason, the hospital said I could bring my dog but 
>>> had to find my own way to take him out.  I didn't have family who 
>>> could be there whenever Felix needed to go out.  I decided to board 
>>> him at the vet for the three days I was in the hospital.  That went fine.
>>> The rehabilitation facility allowed me to bring my dog.  They were 
>>> willing to have staff to take him out.  I could not walk for two 
>>> weeks after surgery.
>>> I am very grateful to all of the nursing care aids who took Felix out 
>>> for me.
>>> Felix was on a tie-down on one side of my bed.  I was fortunate to 
>>> have a private room.
>>> Friends of mine who also have guide dogs came and groomed and 
>>> exercised Felix for me.
>>> I took him on leash with me to the dining room in a wheelchair.  
>>> Because I did not use the harness, I let people pet him.  The other 
>>> clients and the staff really enjoyed having a dog to pet.  Some of 
>>> the people were seniors who had ffallen or had replacement type 
>>> surgeries.  They love to remember dogs that they had during their lives.
>>> It was kind of neat because Felix seemed to know I was in pain.  He 
>>> would come right up to the side of the bed and stand close so I could pet
> him.
>>> After two and a half weeks I could come home.  I have a boot on my 
>>> foot and still cannot work Felix.  I worry about this.  I now have 
>>> about a week and a half before I can walk again.
>>> I have let Felix out in the fenced in yard to play with our pet dog.
>>> My husband took Felix for a walk, but he dragged back and wouldn't 
>>> go. All I can think is that maybe he didn't want to leave me.
>>> This surgery is hopefully going to make it possible for me to have 
>>> better balance when I walk.  I am excited to see how successful it 
>>> will be.  I am just praying that my pup will still remember how to be a
> guide dog.
>>> I am so blessed to have such wonderful friends and a great family.
>>> This will be my first national convention to have a guide dog.  I 
>>> think the thing I dread the most is going to the exhibit hall with a dog
> guide.
>>> I AM SO ENJOYING THIS LIST AND HOPE TO MEET SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN Orlando.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:29 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>> 
>>> My first dog Glade thought running away and not coming were a great 
>>> game. A
>>> 
>>> couple times, she accidently got loose, and I had a heck of a time 
>>> catching her again.  She would always come when she saw her harness, 
>>> though, so I'd try to get close enough to her to show it to her, and 
>>> the game would be over.
>>> 
>>> I quote the Irish Rovers, sort of:
>>> Those labradors were hiding, playing silly games.
>>> 
>>> From the Unicorn song, explaining why there aren't any more around.
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Daniel" <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:07 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Eve and everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I was having the same problems with having Cass coming to me when I 
>>>> called, and to some extent still do. Although I never allow her to 
>>>> be off leash in the common area behind my townhome, I will go out on 
>>>> a 25 foot leash and practice recall with food treats. This is what 
>>>> my field rep advised me when she visited me on my second month home 
>>>> after complaining about this problem.
>>>> I explained to her that I was having problems with recall both in 
>>>> and out of the house. After returning home and keeping Cass on leash 
>>>> for about 5 weeks, I let her off and when I called her she would not 
>>>> come to me. We would do obedience training, sit, down, stay, and 
>>>> come at short distances and she would do just fine, but when we were 
>>>> at ease she would not come to me when
>>> 
>>>> I
>>>> called. Talk about frustrating - to be upstairs and call and have no 
>>>> dog come, or to be ten feet away and call her to come to me and she 
>>>> would just ignore me. Things really came to a head when I went to a 
>>>> friend's house and she was playing in the yard with his dogs. He 
>>>> called his dogs to come in and Cass refused to come inside. He went 
>>>> to the back door and she would run from my friend. I went to the 
>>>> door and she would ignore my command to come inside. I finally was 
>>>> able to get her to come inside by filling her food bowl, and then 
>>>> snagging her with the leash. That was the last time she was off 
>>>> leash until the field rep came. We started working with high value 
>>>> food rewards. This has seemed to work for the most part, but there 
>>>> are still some occasional instances where she will stay just out of 
>>>> my reach when I call her, and not come to me as if I am playing a 
>>>> game. Needless to say this really ticks me off since I have never 
>>>> had a dog that has done this. I have had quite a few dogs. She has a 
>>>> HUGE stubborn streak. I would never let her be off leash outside 
>>>> unless the area was securely enclosed, and then only with 
>>>> hesitation. I am just glad she is food motivated. The fact that we 
>>>> have only been together for a bit over 4 months lets me think that 
>>>> in time she will become a little more attached and this problem will 
>>>> solve itself.
>>>> 
>>>> I apologize for the long winded emails, but when I get going, I 
>>>> really get going.
>>>> 
>>>> Daniel and Cass
>>>> 
>>>> 
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