[nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery

Mon Apr 22 18:18:57 UTC 2013

That would sure be funny!  I can just imagine Holly in gown, maswk and 
booties!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery


> That was actually what he suggested: it would be difficult to put a mask 
> and gown on the dog. LOL. I didn't contest it really, just asked. I wasn't 
> going to be allowed in there anyway, so it wasn't really an issue; it was 
> mainly a point of conversation for future reference.
>
> CL
>
> On Apr 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> It's my understanding that according to the Centers for disease Control, 
>> if
>> we have to dress in gowns or masks to go into some hospital area, our 
>> dogs
>> can't go in there such as a bone marrow transplant room.
>>
>> Margo and Arrow
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:52 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery
>>
>> Regarding dogs in hospitals: I am doing chaplaincy work at a hospital. 
>> They
>> don't let volunteer chaplains into isolation rooms. When this was 
>> explained
>> to me, they also said that the dog couldn't go in there anyway. I 
>> questioned
>> it anyway, and though I won't question it much at this time since I can't 
>> go
>> in anyway, I am curious about such as this.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:06 AM, "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ken,
>>>  FYI, there are few specific areas in which a service dog can be
>> restricted and the E.R is not one of them. a public entity or private 
>> entity
>> that provides public accommodation must demonstrate the dog poses a 
>> direct
>> threat to the health or safety of others that cannot be eliminated by a
>> reasonable modification to policies, practices, or procedures. As it
>> pertains to hospitals and other health care facilities, I have attached
>> guidance from the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) to this
>> message. If our local VA has a policy that is noncompliant with the ADA,
>> please let us know and our affiliate division president will look into 
>> it!
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ace" <ken at acenovels.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] my surgery
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mary, its great to hear your story and thanks for sharing. I go to a
>>>> VA Hospital for my needs and about three months ago I was bringing
>>>> Ace in after relieving himself in the rain, stepped into the lobby
>>>> and my feet went out from under me and I landed on my head. I came to
>>>> with Ace licking my face. I decided I should go to the VA and when I
>>>> arrived at the ER they were so backed up that after three hours I
>>>> decided to go home and come back the next morning. Since I had no idea
>> how long I would be I sent my wife on to work.
>>>> I was lying on a gurney and Ace was acting strange and I thought he
>>>> needed to go out so I said I was going to take him out but they said
>>>> NO they would take him for me. When he returned I was told that he
>> couldn't be in the ER.
>>>> I said I thought he could be anywhere but OR. I was informed that he
>>>> wasn't allowed in the OR, ER or ICU. I said I will call my wife and
>>>> she will be here in about 30 minutes. Ace was just becide him self
>>>> and I stuck out my hand and called to him. He jumped up on the gurney
>>>> with me, put his head on my shoulder. A Dr. came by and said "You
>>>> can't have that" and I stopped him and said please leave the dog alone,
>> he is just concerned about me. The Dr.
>>>> turned to the ER group and said "Everyone, just ignore the dog, he
>>>> isn't really here".
>>>> They, Guide Dogs, know more about how you feel. God did a good job
>>>> when he created DOGS.
>>>> Ken & Ace
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary
>>>> Wurtzel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:18 PM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] my surgery
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to share about my recent surgery and how it went fore Felix 
>>>> and
>> me.
>>>> First, for some reason, the hospital said I could bring my dog but
>>>> had to find my own way to take him out.  I didn't have family who
>>>> could be there whenever Felix needed to go out.  I decided to board
>>>> him at the vet for the three days I was in the hospital.  That went 
>>>> fine.
>>>> The rehabilitation facility allowed me to bring my dog.  They were
>>>> willing to have staff to take him out.  I could not walk for two
>>>> weeks after surgery.
>>>> I am very grateful to all of the nursing care aids who took Felix out
>>>> for me.
>>>> Felix was on a tie-down on one side of my bed.  I was fortunate to
>>>> have a private room.
>>>> Friends of mine who also have guide dogs came and groomed and
>>>> exercised Felix for me.
>>>> I took him on leash with me to the dining room in a wheelchair.
>>>> Because I did not use the harness, I let people pet him.  The other
>>>> clients and the staff really enjoyed having a dog to pet.  Some of
>>>> the people were seniors who had ffallen or had replacement type
>>>> surgeries.  They love to remember dogs that they had during their 
>>>> lives.
>>>> It was kind of neat because Felix seemed to know I was in pain.  He
>>>> would come right up to the side of the bed and stand close so I could 
>>>> pet
>> him.
>>>> After two and a half weeks I could come home.  I have a boot on my
>>>> foot and still cannot work Felix.  I worry about this.  I now have
>>>> about a week and a half before I can walk again.
>>>> I have let Felix out in the fenced in yard to play with our pet dog.
>>>> My husband took Felix for a walk, but he dragged back and wouldn't
>>>> go. All I can think is that maybe he didn't want to leave me.
>>>> This surgery is hopefully going to make it possible for me to have
>>>> better balance when I walk.  I am excited to see how successful it
>>>> will be.  I am just praying that my pup will still remember how to be a
>> guide dog.
>>>> I am so blessed to have such wonderful friends and a great family.
>>>> This will be my first national convention to have a guide dog.  I
>>>> think the thing I dread the most is going to the exhibit hall with a 
>>>> dog
>> guide.
>>>> I AM SO ENJOYING THIS LIST AND HOPE TO MEET SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN 
>>>> Orlando.
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>>> Carcione
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:29 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>>>
>>>> My first dog Glade thought running away and not coming were a great
>>>> game. A
>>>>
>>>> couple times, she accidently got loose, and I had a heck of a time
>>>> catching her again.  She would always come when she saw her harness,
>>>> though, so I'd try to get close enough to her to show it to her, and
>>>> the game would be over.
>>>>
>>>> I quote the Irish Rovers, sort of:
>>>> Those labradors were hiding, playing silly games.
>>>>
>>>> From the Unicorn song, explaining why there aren't any more around.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Daniel" <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:07 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eve and everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was having the same problems with having Cass coming to me when I
>>>>> called, and to some extent still do. Although I never allow her to
>>>>> be off leash in the common area behind my townhome, I will go out on
>>>>> a 25 foot leash and practice recall with food treats. This is what
>>>>> my field rep advised me when she visited me on my second month home
>>>>> after complaining about this problem.
>>>>> I explained to her that I was having problems with recall both in
>>>>> and out of the house. After returning home and keeping Cass on leash
>>>>> for about 5 weeks, I let her off and when I called her she would not
>>>>> come to me. We would do obedience training, sit, down, stay, and
>>>>> come at short distances and she would do just fine, but when we were
>>>>> at ease she would not come to me when
>>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> called. Talk about frustrating - to be upstairs and call and have no
>>>>> dog come, or to be ten feet away and call her to come to me and she
>>>>> would just ignore me. Things really came to a head when I went to a
>>>>> friend's house and she was playing in the yard with his dogs. He
>>>>> called his dogs to come in and Cass refused to come inside. He went
>>>>> to the back door and she would run from my friend. I went to the
>>>>> door and she would ignore my command to come inside. I finally was
>>>>> able to get her to come inside by filling her food bowl, and then
>>>>> snagging her with the leash. That was the last time she was off
>>>>> leash until the field rep came. We started working with high value
>>>>> food rewards. This has seemed to work for the most part, but there
>>>>> are still some occasional instances where she will stay just out of
>>>>> my reach when I call her, and not come to me as if I am playing a
>>>>> game. Needless to say this really ticks me off since I have never
>>>>> had a dog that has done this. I have had quite a few dogs. She has a
>>>>> HUGE stubborn streak. I would never let her be off leash outside
>>>>> unless the area was securely enclosed, and then only with
>>>>> hesitation. I am just glad she is food motivated. The fact that we
>>>>> have only been together for a bit over 4 months lets me think that
>>>>> in time she will become a little more attached and this problem will
>>>>> solve itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> I apologize for the long winded emails, but when I get going, I
>>>>> really get going.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel and Cass
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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