[nagdu] Hello

Fri Feb 15 23:27:16 UTC 2013

All, 
In regards to Lion's and guide dog program financial support, it is
generally a state, or district decision on who they support.  Many states do
financially support Leader Dog for the reasons I cited earlier this morning,
while other states or districts as many of you have noted, choose to support
other training programs.  There tends to be a greater support toward Leader
in the Midwest States and Canada.  However, keep in mind, it doesn't mean
that even a specific club or clubs won't support an individual as they
choose another training program.  We have had Lion's in my specific club who
have had dogs from Leader and TSE, and a good friend of mine has a dog from
a program located here in WI which was also supported by her club.  My point
is that if you do consider getting financial support from the Lion's to
obtain a guide, don't hesitate to contact your local Lion's club for
support.  
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:51 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello

That's true Eve!  I actually looked at that donation wall at Pilot and read
most of the plaques up there.  MJany were put up in honor of Lions who
donated to Pilot.  But, like any organization that is big, folks get
different impressions for instance a local chapter may be more traditional
than another or a older group may be more conservative than a younger one. 
I had a teacher who was a lion and he was a great teacher as well as a great
human being!  Finally, I support all guide dog schools as long as they are
serving there clientelle the best they can and don't treat them like
subhuman folks.  Dignity and respect are more important than waring about
what school or organization is the best.  I for example have never really
cared for the White Cane cerimonies and White Cane Queen stuff the Lions do.

Only my oppinion though.  And a final thing, some of the Lions might not
really know that theey support other schools.  Me being in the Knights of
Columbus know we support our local mental health center.  I don't know what
other ones we support but I'm sure we do others.  If asked, I could tell you
we help this one and would reccommend it simply because without doing more
research, I don''t know what ones we support for sure.  And, Leader is
probably the biggest school they do support!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello

> I'm sorry, but it seems you all are quite misimformed. As a Lion and a 
> Pilot Alumni I could tell you that the Lions International supports 
> many different schools for guide dogs. Pilot actually is supported 
> almost wholey by Lions, more than any other school including Leader.
> Lions often will support the schools in their areas also such as Guide 
> Dogs of America and etc. The point of Lions is to support vision care 
> and those with vision loss and issues. Right now, we are working on 
> establishing more diabetic education and testing. Are we going to not 
> include someone who may already be involved with another diabeties 
> association? No way. This is not like NFB and ACB. Everyone get along 
> as they should, so I do not know why or where you are getting your 
> information. One crabby woman does not make the worldwide membership 
> and should not be the loudest voice heard. Eve
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:13 AM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>> Julie J I don't have your email address in my address book so will 
>> answer here.
>> I am really sorry this has happened.
>> I know here in Montana the lions said leader dogs only.
>> My reply was, that is fine, if you allowed more blind to come into 
>> your club showing that we can get just as much done as you do, 
>> working together, we all would get something out of this.
>> In our city transportation is unreal.
>> I didn't want to pay for cab fare all of the time, when I felt 
>> someone in our area could help me out.
>> We do have blind as lions, where they have a driver.
>> A father and son team, a lady taking her blind friend.
>> the lady that passed away had her sighted husband.
>> The rest of us have cabs.
>> Now I am trying to think how to add seeing eye now that the leader 
>> dog lady has passed away.
>> there is another person in town who has a seeing eye dog, works all 
>> of the time, stays pretty much to himself.
>> If anyone has tips I would spring this to the father and son team.
>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>> In my ladies group, the ladies are impressed how behaved my dog is.
>> One lady just about had a kitten when my dog looked at the plate of 
>> cookies.
>> Loll, I just moved his head and we started walking away from the table.
>> I am sure if he had his way he would have helped out with each cookie.
>> But he didn't, so that was good.
>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>> Why did they want your dog in the picture when they gave you the rath 
>> of God because you trained your own dog?
>>
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