[nagdu] service animals and Uber or Lyft again

[Michael Forzano]

Michael has a good point about the GPS tracking the driver. If you
tell them in advance and they deny you access, it's your word against
theirs, whereas if they drive to your location that is clear proof
they denied you because of your dog.
Also, I've had two drivers deny me in a row, so it's definitely
possible, and you might not be saving yourself much time by telling
them in advance. Then, that's one more driver who thinks they can get
away with it, which could affect you or another blind person in the
future.

On 10/14/15, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Debby,
>
> You do what you think you must. However, keep in mind that you might have
> one or two drivers in a row who refuse to take you and you still are short
> on time and left stranded.
>
> Many of us have a significant amount of experience with this issue whether
> it be with Uber or from other circumstances. Not all of us wish to take
> such
> a hard line which is why we all love this free country. Sometimes fighting
> the good fight does help. You have to be the one who decides your actions.
>
> I can only say that you and the rest of us as blind people are the true
> blindness experts. We will only be perceived as such if we promote our
> expertise consistently and all the time..
>
> It is easy to have an excuse for our actions, but consider this. If you
> give
> advanced notice and a driver chooses not to come to pick you up then what
> about the next time that driver gets a request and the requester does not
> inform the driver about their guide dog? You already have empowered the
> driver because they simply refused you and there will not be consequences
> for their refusal. As I said in a previous email denying a request is easy.
> The driver will never be held accountable for their action, or lack of
> action, unless they are dumb enough to say they denied you because of their
> dog. Given that Uber is now putting information out to drivers informing
> them about their responsibility to accept passengers with guide dogs the
> smart drivers will never tell and we all lose.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Debby Phillips
> via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:08 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>; oagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] service animals and Uber or Lyft again
>
> I know you all are dead set against letting folks know.  And I understand
> that, but if you're short on time, you don't want to be left strandand.  I
> just think people have to use common sense, figure out what is happening in
> their life at that moment, and do what we need to do.  If I have lots of
> time, if I am in a safe place where I don't mind waiting, then I don't
> tell.
> If I have an emergency and don't want to be left strandand, then I tell.
> Sorry, but that's the way it is.     Debby and Nova
>
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