[NAGDU] the two questions

[Tracy Carcione]

Andy, it sounds to me like the other service dog wasn't acting up in any way; it was your dog getting over-excited.  I know what that's like.  But it's the same if I'd walked into the store, and your dog had gotten over-excited about mine.  It doesn't make my dog any less of a service dog.

I routinely encounter well-behaved pets out and about.  We just stayed in a pet-friendly hotel, because it was in the area we wanted to be and it's a nice place.  One of the pets we passed by barked and acted the fool, and the rest behaved like Krokus--looking, but not leaping around or barking.  I have no problem with well-behaved dogs, wherever I meet them or whatever people call them.

We were eating at a sidewalk café recently, and I heard some people at the next table bragging how they got their pet fake service dog ID.  I was going to make a snarky comment to them when we left, but then Krokus started trying to eat the dirt in a planter, and I decided to just shut up.  My legit service dog is not all he should be.
Tracy


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andy B. via NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] the two questions

When I took a trip to Best Buy last week, Alec detoured from his job because an elderly lady had her "service dog" with her. Alec's performance nearly landed me on my rear end. After getting him back under complete control, I confronted a manager. His predicament is that he cannot by law interfere with the daily operations of the store. In other words, store staff cannot by law, ask these two questions of every person who walks in with an animal. His argument also included the disclaimer that most employees do not receive training on how to determine a valid service animal from an invalid one. Thus, the store is allowed to have any animal if it appears to be an official service animal. His claim is that anyone who brings a service animal to the store must have it under complete control at all times, no matter what type of situation the handler, the service animal, a staff member, or other customer puts the team into. He also stated that he cannot force employees to ask the two questions unless there is a good suspicion that the animal is invalid. Since vested animals look official, come with paperwork (even if not certified by an accredited body), he cannot suspect invalid service animals. Thus, preventing an employee from investigating the problem further.
This statement bothered me because stores allow any animal from the public to enter forbidden territory and puts valid service dogs at risk with the law. Too bad we can't do something about it.


-----Original Message-----
From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie Johnson via NAGDU
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:37 AM
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Cc: Julie Johnson <julielj at neb.rr.com>
Subject: [NAGDU] the two questions

I think most everyone here knows the two questions the DOJ’s guidance on service animals under the ADA allows.
Is that a service dog?
and
What tasks does the dog perform?

However, my understanding is that it is the business that can ask these questions.  These questions aren’t open for anyone to ask and answers be required.   So I’m thinking that if there is an issue with another dog in a store, it isn’t up to the other shoppers to be asking the two questions.  It is up to the store management to ask and deal with any issues that come up.  

Thoughts?
Julie
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