[Nfb-science] BN Info

[Lori]

Hi John,

Thank you for sharing this information. I too am much more of a 
tactile/kenesthetic learner and boy is it a challenge to get some people to 
understand this and a lot more expensive. And, I don't feel that it is 
because I was not taught auditory skills, etc, it is just the type of 
learner that I am. I'm looking forward to the discussion that stems from 
this dialogue.

I am a big proponent of tactile diagrams, braille displays and more. Taking 
test verbally caused me to shut down because I couldn't tactually use the 
process of elimination methods and so on.

Lori M. Miller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <j8miller at soe.ucsd.edu>
To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] BN Info


> Hello Christine,
> I would be happy to discuss options with you off-line at
> jmiller at ucsd.edu or my home phone 858-527-1727.
>
> Purchasing access technology that allows us to complete our studies
> efficiently or do our professional jobs takes some knowhow and
> persistence.
> Monitor Miniatures list blindness equipment people wish to sell but
> there is not enough volume that the item you would want is frequently
> for sale.
> I thought I would write on a more general topic.
> My friend Brian Buhrow performs his job quite successfully as a blind
> individual using a laptop and speech only.
> He is a software programmer and Unix system administrator.  He may have
> a refreshable Braille display or a Braille notetaker with Braille
> display,
> But I do not hear him talk about them much.
> I, on the other hand, use a focus 80 braille display and a Braille note
> PK.
> My work is much less efficient when the Braille display is unavailable.
> The Braille note pk allows me to take notes in the Nemeth Braille Code
> and review
> Electronic copies of nemeth scientific material that is not in hard
> copy.
> I also use a Tiger Braille embosser that can make raised-line drawings
> from PDF files of matlab output.
> I must plan for the repair of these expensive machines and eventual
> replacement as part of my career.
> Rehab will only help blind individuals with an open case.  Those qualify
> who are earning below SGA.
> And the help usually comes quite slowly.
> Some employers will pay for expensive access technology but not all.
> If you ask for an employer to purchase access equipment, do your
> homework, have a price quote, explain what the technology will enable
> you to do in the work place,
> And be able to speak to why a competing technology is a less desirable
> choice.
> I do what I can to keep access technology service contracts up to date.
> Inevitably, it is 1 month after rehab closes a case that the technology
> requires servicing for $1000 or more if the
> Service contract has lapsed.
>
> I would enjoy hearing from others about access technology that they
> personally find helpful in studies or doing science.
> Very best,
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christine Szostak
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:18 AM
> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-science] BN Info
>
> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
>  I apologize as the following is not directly science related, but is
> visual impairment based. If anyone has any suggestions or thoughts, I
> would very sincerely appreciate any advice or time.
>
>  I currently have an old BN BT, which is about at the end of its
> work-life. I am in great need of obtaining a new BN and want to go with
> that version. However, as a graduate student, the approximately $4,000
> being asked for the 18-cell version is beyond my current means. Thus, I
> was wondering if anyone knows of methods of obtaining such a product
> that will allow me to afford the product (e.g., companies allowing
> multiple payments...). I am not affiliated with vision rehab and thus am
> not able to use their services. Further, as I would like to keep the
> product and not have to return it to such an organization, I would much
> prefer other methods. Any thoughts or suggestions again would be very
> much appreciated.
> Yours truly,
> Christine
> Christine M. Szostak
> Graduate Student
> Language Perception Laboratory
> Department of Psychology, Cognitive Area
> The Ohio State University
> Columbus, Ohio
> szostak.1 at osu.edu
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